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Posted by: Gitarrero Apr 21 2010, 08:41 PM

Hi guys,
here is my problem:
The guys in the band decided to record a few songs of our rehearsals and of our next live gig. All we have is a digital recorder with a microphone...
Well, we tried it yesterday and it was better than I thought. Still, I had to turn the mic sensitivity very low, or else the sound would really break up. Okay, done that. The real problem is: The bass, especially the bass drum, sound really hard in the takes. Now I'm looking for a free software to edit the mp3, so I can use an equalizer to turn the volume of the bass a bit lower.
In the next weeks we'd like to make a record while we are all plugged in into our mixer, which is usually not the case during rehearsals, only the vocal mics are plugged in, the rest of us will use the regular amps. I hope this is going to work better...

Posted by: jstcrsn Apr 21 2010, 09:49 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Apr 21 2010, 08:41 PM) *
Hi guys,
here is my problem:
The guys in the band decided to record a few songs of our rehearsals and of our next live gig. All we have is a digital recorder with a microphone...
Well, we tried it yesterday and it was better than I thought. Still, I had to turn the mic sensitivity very low, or else the sound would really break up. Okay, done that. The real problem is: The bass, especially the bass drum, sound really hard in the takes. Now I'm looking for a free software to edit the mp3, so I can use an equalizer to turn the volume of the bass a bit lower.
In the next weeks we'd like to make a record while we are all plugged in into our mixer, which is usually not the case during rehearsals, only the vocal mics are plugged in, the rest of us will use the regular amps. I hope this is going to work better...

we have recorded like this for quick demos
all i can say is put the device up higher and closer to the speakers- away from the bass
this is our version

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Apr 21 2010, 10:08 PM

Micing amps and everything and recording mixer out can give you very good results. Just make sure you have headphones connected to the mixer and making a good mix there prior to recording.

Regarding editing the midi, try software - Reaper (it should work as shareware)...

Posted by: stratman79 Apr 21 2010, 10:24 PM

is it an internal or external mic?

I reckon if you can plug in a boundary mic (you can get them for £30) PZM radioshck ones are good.

should give you a good overall idea of whats going on...

Posted by: MickeM Apr 22 2010, 11:26 AM

Try Audacity! It takes Vst plugins too.

Posted by: Gitarrero Apr 22 2010, 12:31 PM

We used an internal mic, but we want to try an external one next time, or rather try to record it by playing through the mixer.
This is one take to give you an idea how it sounds now...sometimes the sound gets too distorted, and the bass drum sounds really harsh.
Anyway, what settings should I use for the EQ?

 haveyouever_33.MP3 ( 3.63MB ) : 205
 

Posted by: jstcrsn Apr 22 2010, 12:39 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Apr 22 2010, 12:31 PM) *
We used an internal mic, but we want to try an external one next time, or rather try to record it by playing through the mixer.
This is one take to give you an idea how it sounds now...sometimes the sound gets too distorted, and the bass drum sounds really harsh.
Anyway, what settings should I use for the EQ?

IMO a external mike might help but i still think you will have to experiment where in the room to put it
pretty good recording

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Apr 22 2010, 05:46 PM

I think you should try recording through the mixer with everything miced or with one condenser mic for whole room.

Here is a file put through PSP Vintage Compressor VST :  mp3_fix.mp3 ( 3.62MB ) : 232

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Apr 22 2010, 01:31 PM) *
We used an internal mic, but we want to try an external one next time, or rather try to record it by playing through the mixer.
This is one take to give you an idea how it sounds now...sometimes the sound gets too distorted, and the bass drum sounds really harsh.
Anyway, what settings should I use for the EQ?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 24 2010, 01:47 PM

If you are playing on a gig, you will mic up the band. If you do that, there will be a stereo out that you can use to record the mix. It can prove much better to use that mix then to mic up the band with one mic, even a condenser one, because the placement of the mic can prove tricky, and condenser is not suitable for higher sound pressure levels. On the other hand in the controlled room environment with acoustic treatment, good take, a well placed condenser mic (coupled with 2-3 more dynamic ones), and a decent mixer, can make a very decent demo recording. Add some mastering and it's well enough for a demo.

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