2 Pages V   1 2 >  
When Do You Become A 'proffesional.'
Tjchep
Jul 25 2008, 02:34 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.084
Joined: 16-October 07
From: United States, CT
I never really thought about what a professional did, to become a professional. tongue.gif.

So all input is obviously welcome.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
sigma7
Jul 25 2008, 02:54 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.310
Joined: 17-April 08
From: Rhode Island USA
I assume to be a professisional is when u start making music... idk

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Trond Vold
Jul 25 2008, 03:08 AM
Instructor
Posts: 3.497
Joined: 16-February 08
From: Norge!
I assume you mean professional musician smile.gif
There's many ways to be professional, but one way to put it is that you are professional when you can work well with whatever style of music your facing, either in a studio-setting or in a jam-session with a band.
Another way to put it is that your a professional the minute you are paid to play smile.gif

There's many different roads to that point though. I would say hard work and dedication is the key.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio

Amp: Marshall JMP-1 -> Rocktron Velocity 100 -> Marshall JCM-900 Lead 4x12

FX and stomps: T.C Electronics G-Sharp, Korg SDD-1200, Emma Transmorgrifier, BYOC Tribooster, GGG Green Ringer, Dinosaur Overdrive, Voodoo Lab SuperFuzz, Sovtek Bassballs, Line6 Tap Tremolo, EHX Screaming Bird.


___________________________________________________
My Lessons!

My Instructor Board!

My Myspace!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MickeM
Jul 25 2008, 04:12 AM
Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader
Posts: 8.562
Joined: 9-January 07
From: Stockholm, Sweden
The simplest explanation to the contents of the word "professional" is that you're one when you start earning money from it. In legat context (at least in Sweden) it's when you start paying tax and that's when passing 50,000 SEK (about 8300 USD or 5300 Euro) which is the limit where a hobby becomes work.

So going from amature to professional has nothing to do with how skilled you are a musician, just how skilled you are earning money from what you do wink.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Smikey2006
Jul 25 2008, 04:34 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 2.361
Joined: 27-April 07
From: London,ont
Yup.. professionals.. are people whos profession is music.. making money.. and enough to live on.. which is usually a standard depending where you live.. its all about the money...

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Schecter Exotic Star+ Peavey VK
Ibanez Xiphos 707 + Krank Revolution 100
Damien 7




Wishlist
Schecter Customshop
Schecter 2008 Blackjack
Damage Control Timeline Delay Pedal/Distortion
a laptop that runs protools :'(
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
FrankW
Jul 25 2008, 04:44 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 622
Joined: 29-April 08
From: Fort Mill, SC, USA, Pangea, Earth
QUOTE (Tjchep @ Jul 25 2008, 02:34 AM) *
I never really thought about what a professional did, to become a professional. tongue.gif.

So all input is obviously welcome.

A professional is one who makes money at something. This doesn't mean they necessarily have to be good at it... Others would define a professional as someone who is good at something; still being paid for it though.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by FrankW: Jul 25 2008, 04:45 AM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
blindwillie
Jul 25 2008, 07:18 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.533
Joined: 28-March 07
From: Luleå, Sweden
QUOTE (Tjchep @ Jul 25 2008, 03:34 AM) *
I never really thought about what a professional did, to become a professional. tongue.gif.
When you start working smile.gif

So all input is obviously welcome.



QUOTE (MickeM @ Jul 25 2008, 05:12 AM) *
The simplest explanation to the contents of the word "professional" is that you're one when you start earning money from it. In legat context (at least in Sweden) it's when you start paying tax and that's when passing 50,000 SEK (about 8300 USD or 5300 Euro) which is the limit where a hobby becomes work.

So going from amature to professional has nothing to do with how skilled you are a musician, just how skilled you are earning money from what you do wink.gif

Yepp, that's it. It has nothing to do with skill. In many caces an I would prefer an amatuer because he does what he do because he loves it. A professional does it for a living.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------

Schecter C1 Hellraiser EMG 81/85, replaced with JB/Jazz (SH4/SH2n) w. coilsplit
Schecter Revenger HB-105, replaced with EMG 81/85
Stratocaster Deluxe Players Noiseless
Ibanez 2550z
Blackstar HT5H, Blackheart BH5H w. BH112, Laney LX35D, Line6 Pod XT, Marshall MS-2
Headphones: Sennheiser RS120

Stay tuned...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Iluha
Jul 25 2008, 10:37 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.737
Joined: 14-April 07
From: Karmiel, Israel
QUOTE (blindwillie @ Jul 25 2008, 08:18 AM) *
Yepp, that's it. It has nothing to do with skill. In many caces an I would prefer an amatuer because he does what he do because he loves it. A professional does it for a living.

Nothing stops a professional from loving what he's doing, and my belief is that you should only become a "professional" at something that you enjoy doing.

So yeah like others said, being professional is when you earn a decent living from it(no, getting paid 50 bucks for a pub preformance won't qualify you in my books tongue.gif)

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------


My Latest Upload: Here!

My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
Jul 25 2008, 11:02 AM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Well I can't say it has nothing to do with skill, it sure has, but it is also important that a pro musician has a lot of contacts with people within the music business, and not only from lead stars, but also from managers, studios, record producers, other musicians and guitar players (although you will hardly get a job from them, specially if they are competition:) ) etc. As soon as you get a steady money flow over longer period of time, you can call yourself a pro musician. Of course by steady flow of money, I don't mean 100$ per month, although that is something too, perhaps semi-pro or something smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Jul 25 2008, 11:03 AM


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Skalde
Jul 25 2008, 11:10 AM
Learning Roadie
Posts: 803
Joined: 13-January 08
From: Germany
In my opinion you are professional musican when you can live with your money you earn by making music. (or it is your main income)

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Rooks
Jul 25 2008, 11:10 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 231
Joined: 26-June 08
From: Denmark, home of sad and cold climate
I thought professional guitarist were when people threw coins in my hat on the street..

happy.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------

Gear: Guitar Cort EVL X4 , Squier Strat Amp Peavey Valveking 112 50w
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Marcus Siepen
Jul 25 2008, 11:15 AM
Instructor (Blind Guardian)
Posts: 3.433
Joined: 5-March 08
From: Germany
QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Jul 25 2008, 04:08 AM) *
There's many different roads to that point though. I would say hard work and dedication is the key.


I absolutely agree. Being professional starts with your attitude, you have to be serious about what you are doing and you will for sure have to invest a lot of work into this. Only playing a gig and getting paid for this doesn't make you a professional.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
Amps: Mesa Boogie Tripple Rectifier / Triaxis / 2:90 Poweramp / Rectocabs
Effects: Rocktron Intellifex / Rocktron Xpression
Homepage: www.marcussiepen.com www.blind-guardian.com
Check out my video lessons!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kjutte
Jul 25 2008, 01:39 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.710
Joined: 17-July 07
From: Norway
QUOTE (Tjchep @ Jul 25 2008, 03:34 AM) *
I never really thought about what a professional did, to become a professional. tongue.gif.

So all input is obviously welcome.


Profressional means to work with it. ahving it as a profession. You can suck, and still be a professional.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
blindwillie
Jul 25 2008, 01:40 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.533
Joined: 28-March 07
From: Luleå, Sweden
QUOTE (Iluha @ Jul 25 2008, 11:37 AM) *
Nothing stops a professional from loving what he's doing, and my belief is that you should only become a "professional" at something that you enjoy doing.

So yeah like others said, being professional is when you earn a decent living from it(no, getting paid 50 bucks for a pub preformance won't qualify you in my books tongue.gif)

Yes. Things stop a professional from loving what he does. Having a "boss". If you are a professional you always have a "boss". The guy who has the money. Not being in control of content and quality. Deliver on a time schedule. Being bored after several years of same, same... and so forth.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------

Schecter C1 Hellraiser EMG 81/85, replaced with JB/Jazz (SH4/SH2n) w. coilsplit
Schecter Revenger HB-105, replaced with EMG 81/85
Stratocaster Deluxe Players Noiseless
Ibanez 2550z
Blackstar HT5H, Blackheart BH5H w. BH112, Laney LX35D, Line6 Pod XT, Marshall MS-2
Headphones: Sennheiser RS120

Stay tuned...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Iluha
Jul 25 2008, 01:47 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.737
Joined: 14-April 07
From: Karmiel, Israel
QUOTE (blindwillie @ Jul 25 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Yes. Things stop a professional from loving what he does. Having a "boss". If you are a professional you always have a "boss". The guy who has the money. Not being in control of content and quality. Deliver on a time schedule. Being bored after several years of same, same... and so forth.

If you get to a point that it's like you described, than you should quit, that's just my opinion tongue.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------


My Latest Upload: Here!

My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Bogdan Radovic
Jul 25 2008, 02:25 PM
Bass & Beginner Instructor
Posts: 15.614
Joined: 30-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Hard work and dedication..Next stop is getting payed for your "music" work and keeping that thing going....And then you are a professional. smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
Check out my lessons and my instructor board.
Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andrew Cockburn
Jul 25 2008, 02:30 PM
Moderation Policy Director
Posts: 10.459
Joined: 6-February 07
From: CT, USA
2 separate meanings -

1. Earn money from it as many have said
2. Have a good attitude, be skilled, be able to work with others as a peer, be responsible for your own development, be reliable etc, much as Marcus said

I think these 2 get mixed up, in the English langauge at least

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ...

My Stuff:

Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass
Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon
Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood
Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gerardo Siere
Jul 25 2008, 07:10 PM
Instructor
Posts: 2.424
Joined: 20-December 07
From: San Juan
When you play good enough so people call you and pay you for playing or recording with them.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Check out my video lessons!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
Jul 25 2008, 07:16 PM
Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
QUOTE (MickeM @ Jul 25 2008, 05:12 AM) *
So going from amature to professional has nothing to do with how skilled you are a musician, just how skilled you are earning money from what you do wink.gif


Agree,professional musician isn't always the skilled one.
However many amateur nut skilled players easily become
pros when they start earning to live by playing.

So keep working playing hard. smile.gif

QUOTE (Rooks @ Jul 25 2008, 12:10 PM) *
I thought professional guitarist were when people threw coins in my hat on the street..

happy.gif


I guess that's another way to do it. wink.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
blindwillie
Jul 26 2008, 05:31 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 1.533
Joined: 28-March 07
From: Luleå, Sweden
QUOTE (Iluha @ Jul 25 2008, 02:47 PM) *
If you get to a point that it's like you described, than you should quit, that's just my opinion tongue.gif

Yes. I'm speaking out of frustration at my current job. Last years I've started to regret that I ever turned an interest (computers) into work. And I would hate to see that happen to all of you (music). That said, ofc you can do what you love professionally. Atm I'm considering every other option of work that doesn't involve computers.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------

Schecter C1 Hellraiser EMG 81/85, replaced with JB/Jazz (SH4/SH2n) w. coilsplit
Schecter Revenger HB-105, replaced with EMG 81/85
Stratocaster Deluxe Players Noiseless
Ibanez 2550z
Blackstar HT5H, Blackheart BH5H w. BH112, Laney LX35D, Line6 Pod XT, Marshall MS-2
Headphones: Sennheiser RS120

Stay tuned...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 




RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th April 2024 - 04:37 PM