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OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 09:33 PM
Jan 23 2009, 09:33 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	I posted my brainstorming thoughts in the thread where David left his idea. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

jer View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 09:40 PM
Jan 23 2009, 09:40 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	I think a panel of instructors who vote PASS OR FAIL is all thats needed. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Matt23 View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 09:52 PM
Jan 23 2009, 09:52 PM	Accomplished Tone Master Posts: 1.745 Joined: 17-January 08 From: Scotland	I'd love to see this happen. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Kristofer Dahl View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:06 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:06 PM	GMC Founder Posts: 18.749 Joined: 15-August 05 From: Stockholm, Sweden	QUOTE (fatb0t @ Jan 23 2009, 11:22 PM) What about you post your take of a lesson with a poll. Only instructors can vote. You have a uniform ranking of your take from like 1 to 5 5 perfect 4 excellent 3 average 2 you need to work harder on it 1 unsatisfactory this way it isnt bound to any particular instructor - they can vote as they will you know what I mean? Using a poll sounds like a good idea! We could think set minimum percentage required to "pass". edit - this got me thinking! Maybe we should just throw out these polls in the open on the "instructors only" board..! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lesssons

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:11 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:11 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	Just great, will track this very closely! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Toni Suominen View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:14 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:14 PM	Instructor Posts: 3.038 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Rauma, Finland	This sounds awesome, I really want to see how this system is incorporated here. It will be fun! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: -PRS Custom 22 -Edwards Les Paul -PodXT -Ibanez Acoustic Check out my lessons and my instructor profile! My Youtube channel My Last.FM

lcsdds View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:16 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:16 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	I think the best thing would be that it would encourage people to FINISH lessons up to speed rather than just stealing licks here and there. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

skennington View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:17 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:17 PM	Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator Posts: 7.461 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA	QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 23 2009, 04:06 PM) edit - this got me thinking! Maybe we should just throw out these polls in the open on the "instructors only" board..! This would be a very good and simplistic approach. Once a grading system is in place, all they would need to do is vote! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *Show Off The Lessons You Have Learned Here On The REC Board And Receive Valuable Feedback from Our Instructors!* *Check Out The Virtual Bands* *Want To Join One, Or Maybe Form Your Own?*

Kristofer Dahl View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:19 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:19 PM	GMC Founder Posts: 18.749 Joined: 15-August 05 From: Stockholm, Sweden	QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jan 24 2009, 12:16 AM) I think the best thing would be that it would encourage people to FINISH lessons up to speed rather than just stealing licks here and there. Yes that is another reason to do this. If you almost nail a lesson - why not nail it completely and then get "visible" points for it? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lesssons

-Zion- View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:25 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:25 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 713 Joined: 20-May 08 From: copenhagen	QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 23 2009, 10:19 PM) Yes that is another reason to do this. If you almost nail a lesson - why not nail it completely and then get "visible" points for it? indeed.. if one got some kind of "reward" like this one might complete the lesson.. awesome idea.. edit: it would give people a sense of accomplishment, and might boost their confidense.. which is a bit plus.. also, to take it even further it would be cool if the completed lesson was added to the profile, so you could view all the lessons you'd completed (maybe even with links to own videos.. ie youtube) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by -Zion-: Jan 23 2009, 10:42 PM

Marek Rojewski View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:34 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:34 PM	Experienced Guitar Lord Posts: 1.671 Joined: 26-May 08 From: Lodz, Poland	It will also work for GMC, as in order to prove that one has completed the lesson a video would most probably be needed, and video responses, placed for example on Youtube will bring the glory of GMC to the masses;) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Youtube channel My three lyrics: Paintings; Jester; Tiny Arrow

superize View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:35 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:35 PM	Ultimate Tone Guru Posts: 4.348 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Glommersträsk. Sweden	This sounds very interesting You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG Jackson js30 warrior jackson rr24 Line 6 Spider III amp Line 6 pod xt live Washburn acoustic Youtube Account My bands Myspace

JVM View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 10:35 PM
Jan 23 2009, 10:35 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 2.878 Joined: 2-June 07 From: Raleigh-Durham, NC	Sounds really good. It seems to me though, that if someone went and did ALL the lessons on GMC, their average level of ability would be dragged down by all the lower level lessons they do. Of course, this would be offset by their diversity, but maybe some kind of system whereby lower levels of lessons aren't factored into the average level score. Just like the system you have in place: 1 - 2 Guitarist 3 - 4 Player 5 - 6 Rocker/Shredder 7 - 8 Guitar Hero 9 - 10 Guitar God Except that if their "experience" consists of only level 1-2 lessons, only those will be factored into their level average. If their experience consisted of many levels though, especially if it's someone that has been learning a lot and improving, it will only average the lessons that are of the highest level they can do. There would need to be a few lessons shown to prove that they can play at this level though. For example, if a 'player' has been playing level 3-4 lessons for a while, but can manage to show competence now doing some level 5 lessons, maybe even a level 6, they can submit those and they'll become a 'rocker/shredder' and their average 'level' will now only be average among the level 5-6 lessons they can complete. This way, their diversity keeps increasing but their level accurately reflects how good of a player they are. It's like making a bunch of f's (not comparing low level lessons here to failures), and then a few A's. Obviously, you know the stuff because you made the A's, but you have a bunch of f's (completed low level lessons, in this case actually a good thing) that will drag your average down to something not accurate to your real level. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals.

DaniHel View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 11:08 PM
Jan 23 2009, 11:08 PM	Learning Tone Guru Posts: 141 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Portugal	Great idea! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- www.myspace.com/danielrodrigues

rokchik View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 11:08 PM
Jan 23 2009, 11:08 PM	The Dark Canuck Posts: 2.729 Joined: 22-March 07 From: The Great White North	This is so great Just another great initiative that puts GMC well above any other guitar site on the web. I think using the practice agendas is one way to post your take of a lesson to be "graded". Maybe there could be a pinned topic in the main GMC board so when you have finished a lesson and want it graded, you can post in there with a link to your practice agenda. And maybe there can be a box put in your agenda for your points and level that the "graders" can amend as needed. Just an idea... no matter how it's done I can see the panel of "graders", whoever they are, being very busy (Although I like the idea of the panel being made up of instructors seems the most fair) As for a name... I'll have to think a little more on that one. rok You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

David Wallimann View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 11:09 PM
Jan 23 2009, 11:09 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.565 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Fort Collins, CO	Wow!It's funny how an original idea can go so far! I really like what I read so far. Andrew, I like the distinction between experience and level, it will surely prevent students to just go for easy lessons to get credit. I think the general classification you suggested is a good starting point. We can always tweak a bit as we go, but for now I really like it. I think having instructors credit points is great. Maybe have some kind of scoring grid such as this for example: Rhythm placement -/20 (self explanatory) Cleanness -/20 (How clean the notes are) Feel -/20 (Does it feel like the student really appropriated the guitar part to himself or does it sound like he's just copying something..) Posture -/20 Sound -/20 (Probably not a good example, as we don't want to penalize students with poor quality material...) We probably need to discuss that grid. I don't think we should include things like technique in there as if a more advanced player tackles a beginner's lesson, there is no point in grading his technique. We need to find a general system applicable to any lesson and any level. Does that make sense? Maybe have something like 5 categories, each worth 20 points which once graded by let's 5 instructors the student will get a 100 point score. If a student gets a final score of 50, he will get 50 per cent of the lesson's point value. If a student completes a lesson of level 5, and gets 50 points, he will earn 50 percent of 5. That student will earn a total of 2.5 points. We could maybe have prizes such as access to a secret lesson, or maybe a one on one 30 minute lesson with one of the instructors (that's for when GMC will allow us to have that kind of feature...) Does that make sense? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by David Wallimann: Jan 23 2009, 11:09 PM -------------------- www.youtube.com/Wallimann www.davidwallimann.com

Canis View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 11:18 PM
Jan 23 2009, 11:18 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 3.319 Joined: 22-October 07 From: Molde, Norway	This is brilliant! As long as we stay polite and don't rub titles in other peoples faces in the unfriendly manner (as I guess there will be some good natured, friendly teasing ) As if becoming a badass guitarist wasn't enough motivation, this will absolutely make it even more fun to learn lessons ^^ A suggestion for the name could be "The Stairway".. As inspired from the Rock and Roll History Museum's "Guitarway to Heaven" (atleast the Pick of Destiny version of it), which is inspired from Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven? ^^ By the way, I like your system, David ^^ You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Canis: Jan 23 2009, 11:22 PM -------------------- GMC is not just a website... It's a lifestyle! https://www.youtube.com/CanisArctus ->Click here for the ultimate practicing tip!<-

utak3r View Member Profile	Jan 24 2009, 12:03 AM
Jan 24 2009, 12:03 AM	GMC:er Posts: 570 Joined: 3-January 09 From: Szczecin, Poland	QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Jan 23 2009, 11:09 PM) Does that make sense? Yeah, that's a nice idea, more flexible IMHO You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Machines don't bleed that easily... utak3r.pl

Iluha View Member Profile	Jan 24 2009, 02:41 AM
Jan 24 2009, 02:41 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	I actually love the idea just as it is, simple and very effective, will serve as yet another motivation tool for everyone! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

HAMWAGON View Member Profile	Jan 24 2009, 02:58 AM
Jan 24 2009, 02:58 AM	GMC:er Posts: 46 Joined: 1-January 09 From: Melbourne,Australia	I actually quite like this idea but i think there should be a grand prize such as a ibanez Jem or a Mesa boogie Tripple Rectifer ... Maybe not but it does sound quite good You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by HAMWAGON: Jan 24 2009, 02:59 AM

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