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post Dec 31 2007, 10:56 PM
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My friend wants to get this program but to me it looks like scam, like most "guarenteed to work instantly and quickly" programs. What do you guys think?

http://www.perfectpitch.com/home.htm


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post Dec 31 2007, 11:05 PM
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Looks like a Scam. Some are born with Perfect Pitch, others develop it over years and years of playing and some never get it.


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post Dec 31 2007, 11:09 PM
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Well I bought a fretboard trainer, obviously completely different to these claims. I did learn the entire fretboard but it took me 6 months of hard slog to complete the course.... If i hadnt been out of work i never could have completed it, not in a million years!!

This is an all together incredible claim, I would be warey of parting with you cash! smile.gif


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post Dec 31 2007, 11:12 PM
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Yea it is $140 lol. I am noticing progress in my relative ear training from just a $15 book I bought with a CD. I can hear a note and humm any interval from that note and it is usually right, don't know if that is progress though.


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post Jan 1 2008, 12:14 AM
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I play piano and for the tests there are aural parts so my paino teacher makes me do aural things. I think it's a very big advantage to play piano because to play guitar you need technique AND theory and learning theory with the piano really helps.

EDIT: Example: I can tell what the intervals are between two notes and stuff.
EDIT: And learning theory isn't too hard at all.

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post Jan 1 2008, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (Tomy Jeon @ Jan 1 2008, 12:14 AM) *
I play piano and for the tests there are aural parts so my paino teacher makes me do aural things. I think it's a very big advantage to play piano because to play guitar you need technique AND theory and learning theory with the piano really helps.

EDIT: Example: I can tell what the intervals are between two notes and stuff.
EDIT: And learning theory isn't too hard at all.


I went to my dad's new girlfriends house like three weeks ago and there was a tiny little toy keyboard with like 20 keys. Once I deciphered B-C from E-F, I was able to play like the entire Tornado of Souls song minus the solo on the little thing, which I still can't do on guitar and I have been practicing it a lot lol. After that I have been thinking about learning how to play but is keyboard a reliable way to learn piano? I prefer piano but don't want to spend $10,000 lol.

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post Jan 1 2008, 01:09 AM
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You can get a decent keyboard for much less than 10,000.
Look at some digital pianos...you can get the full 88 keys if you want, but 61 will do fine for learning purposes. I think it's more important that the keys are full size and that they are touch-sensitive. Then everything will translate to an upright or a grand if you want to. Weighted keys are nice, also.
I have a Casio portable 61 key portable that suits me fine.
If you're interested, check out this link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/...N=100001+304698

It helps with theory, too. Not that the guitar is impossible, but everything is more or less in plain sight on the keys; the notes only increment in one dimension (one note=one key).

Anyway, I ramble on.

I have looked at that Perfect Pitch ad before. I have never seen or tried the actual product, but I've heard that the course is very time-intensive and that results are slow. I don't know how much better it is than just developing your relative pitch, and I'd also be wary of any "guaranteed" results.

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post Jan 1 2008, 01:44 AM
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I have a keyboard but I didnt have to pay a cent because someone was throwing it otlut and no I'm not a trash collector but this is like brand new and works great but I don't play it anyway
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post Jan 1 2008, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (Nick325 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:44 AM) *
I have a keyboard but I didnt have to pay a cent because someone was throwing it otlut and no I'm not a trash collector but this is like brand new and works great but I don't play it anyway


Yea yardsales and dumpsters are a great way to get stuff. My friend goes to computer stores and takes high dollar stuff that has been outdated just a little bit out of the dumpster and sells it on ebay for money lol.


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post Jan 1 2008, 04:14 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:55 PM) *
Yea yardsales and dumpsters are a great way to get stuff. My friend goes to computer stores and takes high dollar stuff that has been outdated just a little bit out of the dumpster and sells it on ebay for money lol.


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Yeah, you can get good pianos for less than $10000. You can get a decent piano for less than $5000.


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post Jan 1 2008, 02:41 PM
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I had one Book&CD for that - "Ultimate Guitar Training" from Hal-Leonard publisher. It really helped me with my interval in the early days.


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post Jan 1 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 31 2007, 10:56 PM) *
My friend wants to get this program but to me it looks like scam, like most "guarenteed to work instantly and quickly" programs. What do you guys think?

http://www.perfectpitch.com/home.htm

It's not a scam.
And it does not claim that you can get it in 7 days. smile.gif

I believe that you can develop perfect pitch (or getting close to it) over time.
And then it does not hurt to follow a course.

It is a practice regime more than anything else - so..
It all depends.

It does not work for everyone - you need lots of patience and lots of time - and then it works best if you've played your instrument long enough to be familiar with it's tone/timbre.

It is not a hoax, and I do recommend getting the course.
However, I think there are other options woth looking into.
If he wants to train his musical ear, I'd recommend that he looks into EarMaster.
Great program. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 1 2008, 09:34 PM
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EarMaster Pro works great!
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