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Muris Varajic
post Jan 2 2008, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Carlo @ Jan 2 2008, 07:45 PM) *
Wouldn't many people be dissappointed when they finally register and realize they are getting the same as what you get for free and the end of the day we bought for the lessons and if you are getting more through the forum then all the better, but most people will buy for the quality of the lessons and In my opinon the way it is set up now gives you alot of info...remeber too much of a good.......
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I believe couple of free lessons would be more than enough imho.


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post Jan 2 2008, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 2 2008, 06:21 PM) *
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You know.. GMC worked well a year ago.. But where we are now, we wont be able to get without creativity, will, work and improving ourselves.. I dont want to repair anything, we just found out a point of controversy - and out of this debate a improvement idea has emerged - thinking this way, we wouldn't have any singing lessons now, we wouldn't have new instructors, members, site interface and better forums.

Its nice to stick to traditions.. but even thou some things work, there might be a better way:) And if there is a will and an idea, that might prove usefull, I see no reason, not to try:)

If there was idea and no will, or bad idea and will to do it, then there will be no point in discussion:) But I think, that this is a nice idea to give guests a straight list of what we can give them and let them try, what it looks like:)

Also, we can offer them a few free lessons, if they do something for us - either register as a guest (without paying - registering just for getting these free lessons:) - it is not nessecity to register, it could be just some kind of button, that will have a counter set upon it...), so we would have an precise database, that would show us, if this is effective, or we can just let them vote for GMC as best page on 100bestguitarsites.com or what the website is:)


I totally appreciate what you are trying to say, and I agree that these discussions spawn great new ideas for sure !!

Maybe your right, ive seen alot of good ideas over the last couple pages. Some may be worth trying!!

It is just I think that in this instance Kris has got the balance spot on already smile.gif This is of course just my opinion only wink.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 2 2008, 06:53 PM) *
It is just I think that in this instance Kris has got the balance spot on already smile.gif This is of course just my opinion only wink.gif


I agree with you here Matt, I think the site format rocks as it is, its a winning combination imo, if it aint broke etc smile.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Smells @ Jan 2 2008, 06:56 PM) *
I agree with you here Matt, I think the site format rocks as it is, its a winning combination imo, if it aint broke etc smile.gif


Totally. We must have these discussions for sure, afterall GMC is about community and building something special together.

Its just in this case, I think it works perfect !! wink.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 08:00 PM
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I meant.. like.. One lesson.. or two:-D not to give everything:-D
and they wont be dissappointed - because they will see the HUUUUUUUGE list of things, they will get by joining:) so they will know exactly, what will they get for their bucks - the main thing, when you want to profit, is to know, how to sell your stuff:) You must show them every way, in which it will improve their not only guitar life, but social life and cultural life too:-D They can actually meet here people of same hobby as them from all around the world... GMC is really great, but we have so many chances, to get even better..smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2008, 08:07 PM
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I like your ideas Jakub, maybe the idea of one or two free lessons might work.. smile.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 08:15 PM
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To Carlo - Are you actually saying that if the site offered like two or three free sample lessons you wouldn't pay for the rest of the content? I personally think that there's little or no risk that someone would watch one or two free sample lessons and then go "Hey that's all I needed!" and move on. I got hooked to another guitar site primarily because of their great sample lessons and I think this site is lacking in that area, that's why I suggested the idea.

I just think that the way you can preview the site now might not hook you to the GMC experience since just getting the playthrough plus one free part of the lesson makes it nigh impossible to actually practice the lesson and thus get a feel for it. It would also be a great excuse to create a section specifically for those who visit the site for the first time and give them a good introduction to what it's all about.

Right now, honestly if I came to the site through the ad about free lessons that has sparked so much controversy, I would be confused about where they are and it would probably take awhile before I figured out that it's only those small snippets that are free. Now maybe that's just me but that is much more likely to get me to go "Hey that's not what he advertised" and feel a bit miffed even though the content on the site is great.


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post Jan 2 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Smurkas @ Jan 2 2008, 02:15 PM) *
To Carlo - Are you actually saying that if the site offered like two or three free sample lessons you wouldn't pay for the rest of the content? I personally think that there's little or no risk that someone would watch one or two free sample lessons and then go "Hey that's all I needed!" and move on. I got hooked to another guitar site primarily because of their great sample lessons and I think this site is lacking in that area, that's why I suggested the idea.

I just think that the way you can preview the site now might not hook you to the GMC experience since just getting the playthrough plus one free part of the lesson makes it nigh impossible to actually practice the lesson and thus get a feel for it. It would also be a great excuse to create a section specifically for those who visit the site for the first time and give them a good introduction to what it's all about.

Right now, honestly if I came to the site through the ad about free lessons that has sparked so much controversy, I would be confused about where they are and it would probably take awhile before I figured out that it's only those small snippets that are free. Now maybe that's just me but that is much more likely to get me to go "Hey that's not what he advertised" and feel a bit miffed even though the content on the site is great.
/Marcus


I might agree with one or 2 lessons but I'll tell you I'm impressed with the content on the site cause thats not what I singed up for but for me its added value on top of getting the lessons.... all I'm saying is if you oversell you might set urealistic expectations.
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post Jan 2 2008, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 3 2008, 08:00 AM) *
I meant.. like.. One lesson.. or two:-D not to give everything:-D


That's a brilliant idea. People will be addicted after one or two lessons and they will have to submit to GMC's awesomeness! Muahahahaha!!!


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post Jan 3 2008, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (Tomy Jeon @ Jan 2 2008, 09:47 PM) *
That's a brilliant idea. People will be addicted after one or two lessons and they will have to submit to GMC's awesomeness! Muahahahaha!!!


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post Jan 3 2008, 04:30 AM
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post Jan 3 2008, 03:28 PM
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Anyway, I think, it would be a good idea(I am a curious guy, you see:) ), to make (maybe only for ourselves... maybe for guests:) ) a list of things, you can do on GMC without subscription and with subscription:)

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post Jan 4 2008, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 3 2008, 03:28 PM) *
Anyway, I think, it would be a good idea(I am a curious guy, you see:) ), to make (maybe only for ourselves... maybe for guests:) ) a list of things, you can do on GMC without subscription and with subscription:)

I try to summarize:

- A lot is free at gmc (of course not the video-lessons tongue.gif )
- the current system works well, thus far
- The advertising is a little curious has worked thus far and is absolutely mandatory for the survival of gmc (edit by Kris)
- we could make a list of what's free (Kris would have to agree to put it on the mainpage)
..If we have such a list gmc doesn't need to publish complete lessons for free <- That's what I think


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post Jan 4 2008, 10:57 PM
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Wasn't one of Kris's early lessons for free at one point, just as a sample for guests? I'm not sure, I swear I remember things that never happened all the time. smile.gif


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post Jan 4 2008, 11:05 PM
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Hello to all my fret-mates. Here's what I think:
I think that GMC has TOO many things for FREE!

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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 4 2008, 10:52 PM) *
- The advertising is a little curious has worked thus far and is absolutely mandatory for the survival of gmc (edit by Kris)

Haha, I didn't know how to explain that it's okay but it IS curious

swingline: The lick of the day is free wink.gif

eddiecat: I don't think so, because at the moment they have to be found by the visitor.

Kris: So what are you gonna do? Leave it as it is? I wouldn't have a problem with that I just want a result wink.gif

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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 5 2008, 12:05 PM) *
Haha, I didn't know how to explain that it's okay but it IS curious


Constie you are missing an important concept when having a discussion with other people - you cannot draw the conclusion that something is in a certain way because you think it is like that.

Instead you have to draw the conclusion that "some people think that the advertising is curious" or even better, you can specify who thinks it:

"Constie and Jakob think GMC advertising is curious" (I am sorry if I mistook the names here or missed someone).

By the way you are not alone to confuse facts with opinions - my grandmother used to do it all the time. blink.gif laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 01:39 PM
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I think this topic title is misleading, every time I see;

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I cant help but think - "Yes Please!" laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 5 2008, 12:39 PM) *
I think this topic title is misleading, every time I see;
I cant help but think - "Yes Please!" laugh.gif laugh.gif


I understand what your saying but I cant help think "no thanks" I happily pay my subscription and will keep on doing so, and also think its just a snip of a fee, I`m suprised its not more when you look at the content thats available on the site, and as mentioned before the theory available here is free but in my opinion priceless, not only that, someone (Andrew) will "free"ly give up his time to answer anything on that subject, along with all the other instructors.

Imo you get what you pay for in life (in general ofc) I`d rather keep GMC the way it is and not open it up to constant abuse by any passer by.


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QUOTE (Smells @ Jan 5 2008, 04:52 AM) *
I understand what your saying but I cant help think "no thanks" I happily pay my subscription and will keep on doing so, and also think its just a snip of a fee, I`m suprised its not more when you look at the content thats available on the site, and as mentioned before the theory available here is free but in my opinion priceless, not only that, someone (Andrew) will "free"ly give up his time to answer anything on that subject, along with all the other instructors.

Imo you get what you pay for in life (in general ofc) I`d rather keep GMC the way it is and not open it up to constant abuse by any passer by.


Haha, I didnt really mean that in a serious fashion - I'm happy to keep paying (its not a lot after all) but the title implies that its offering something so thats why I said that and yknow - anything for free is nice but I understand business doesnt work like that and that if GMC was offered for free it wouldnt be half as good.

In short I was just having a larf but maybe it didnt come out that way laugh.gif biggrin.gif


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