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post Jan 5 2008, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 5 2008, 01:11 PM) *
In short I was just having a larf but maybe it didnt come out that way laugh.gif biggrin.gif


lol, I realised that mate, it wasnt really aimed at you specifically I was just adding some extra thoughts to the thread and your post kinda sparked off a thought, that was all wink.gif you know I lubs ya lots smile.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 5 2008, 12:29 PM) *
Constie you are missing an important concept when having a discussion with other people - you cannot draw the conclusion that something is in a certain way because you think it is like that.

Instead you have to draw the conclusion that "some people think that the advertising is curious" or even better, you can specify who thinks it:

"Constie and Jakob think GMC advertising is curious" (I am sorry if I mistook the names here or missed someone).

By the way you are not alone to confuse facts with opinions - my grandmother used to do it all the time. blink.gif laugh.gif

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post Jan 5 2008, 02:38 PM
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To Kris - I don't think it is going to far to say that Constie actually has stated a fact, not "just" an opinion. It is a fact that the advertising states free lessons and it's also a fact that there are no free lessons on the site. Ok that that's curious is an opinion (or a conclusion) but it's based on certain facts. And do you think people would be confused (like I was when I first showed up) if people found a free lesson like the advertising says?

There is of course alot of free content like people have said but they aren't free lessons.



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post Jan 5 2008, 02:46 PM
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I think we're going round in circles now laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 5 2008, 02:46 PM) *


I think we're going round in circles now laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yes we do. We had suggestions and many more. Now it's Kris' turn to think about it and may change something.

Thanks Smurkas for your support smile.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 03:14 PM
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[quote name='Smurkas' date='Jan 5 2008, 08:38 AM' post='113344']
To Kris - I don't think it is going to far to say that Constie actually has stated a fact, not "just" an opinion. It is a fact that the advertising states free lessons and it's also a fact that there are no free lessons on the site. Ok that that's curious is an opinion (or a conclusion) but it's based on certain facts. And do you think people would be confused (like I was when I first showed up) if people found a free lesson like the advertising says?

I have been away for several weeks and just came back reading this. As I am late into the fray here I wil be brief. How can anyone state that there are no free lessons here ???? I read and studied Andrew's theory lessons for 2 solid days before I became a member here. Find me another guitar site that provides that kind of content for nothing. There is more free content on GMC than anywhere else, along with a community not found on any other site. What about all the picks Muris has given away ? FREE of cost to alot of you, who paid shipping ? I can assure you that the recipients did not. This site has become home to most of us , for it's content and community. To state these are "FACTS" as in the quoted post, give us facts , not an interpretation of facts please. The fact is, your facts are incorrect.


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post Jan 5 2008, 04:00 PM
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I agree with owen this thread is going around in circles !! unsure.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 5 2008, 10:00 AM) *
I agree with owen this thread is going around in circles !! unsure.gif


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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Jan 5 2008, 03:01 PM) *
And that makes me a sad panda... (commenting on avatar biggrin.gif)


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To Understudy - I was under the impression that the discussion was about whether there was free video lessons on the site or not, noone is disputing the fact that there's free theory lessons. I'm not going to go googling for you but finding free theory lessons is not hard, rather the opposite is true.

I learned theory for free by reading it on free sites all over the web so yes that kind of content is available for free on many other sites. In fact I don't think I've found a site where you have to pay just for text theory lessons.

When it comes to community/free stuff I know of at least one other guitar site that pretty much matches this one (my opinion) that offers free lessons from their lesson library. In fact I explicitly stated in my post that there is indeed free content on the GMC site. However I could have made my post clearer by explicitly stating that there aren't any free video lessons, only small video lesson samples and as far as I know that is a fact.

As far as I know this was all that Constie asked about in the beginning and I still don't understand why people are getting so upset. I have never stated that there's no free content on the site and I don't think Constie has either. In fact post numer 35 by Jakub Luptovec is a very well written post on what this was all about from the beginning and I do believe the facts as he presents them there in that post are true and correct.



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post Jan 5 2008, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Smurkas @ Jan 5 2008, 06:05 PM) *
To Understudy - I was under the impression that the discussion was about whether there was free video lessons on the site or not, noone is disputing the fact that there's free theory lessons. I'm not going to go googling for you but finding free theory lessons is not hard, rather the opposite is true.

I learned theory for free by reading it on free sites all over the web so yes that kind of content is available for free on many other sites. In fact I don't think I've found a site where you have to pay just for text theory lessons.

When it comes to community/free stuff I know of at least one other guitar site that pretty much matches this one (my opinion) that offers free lessons from their lesson library. In fact I explicitly stated in my post that there is indeed free content on the GMC site. However I could have made my post clearer by explicitly stating that there aren't any free video lessons, only small video lesson samples and as far as I know that is a fact.

As far as I know this was all that Constie asked about in the beginning and I still don't understand why people are getting so upset. I have never stated that there's no free content on the site and I don't think Constie has either. In fact post numer 35 by Jakub Luptovec is a very well written post on what this was all about from the beginning and I do believe the facts as he presents them there in that post are true and correct.
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I want to say something to all the people that replied to this topic seriously.
Thanks for thinking about how to improve gmc, thanks for taking your time and come up with ideas.
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post Jan 5 2008, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 5 2008, 07:03 PM) *
This thread is done now. PLEASE close it!


Not yet,I'd give final statement to....Fkalich biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 5 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Not yet,I'd give final statement to....Fkalich biggrin.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 5 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Fkalich is my hero wub.gif


Haha, I think - like Andrew, that I only agree with his arguments half the time but perhaps we could be nice and reserve him the last word laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 5 2008, 07:26 PM) *
Haha, I think - like Andrew, that I only agree with his arguments half the time but perhaps we could be nice and reserve him the last word laugh.gif laugh.gif


But if you agree or not, his last word is always fantasticaly entertaining to read tongue.gif biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 5 2008, 11:28 AM) *
But if you agree or not, his last word is always fantasticaly entertaining to read tongue.gif biggrin.gif


I concur (agreeing was becoming boring tongue.gif), but only on the condition that he uses his 8 cats as a metaphor or simile in his argument, which is generally pretty often laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 5 2008, 07:29 PM) *
I concur (agreeing was becoming boring tongue.gif), but only on the condition that he uses his 8 cats as a metaphor or simile in his argument, which is generally pretty often laugh.gif


9 out of 10 cats cant be wrong.... ROFL laugh.gif laugh.gif smile.gif


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I dont think, that there is ANY need for ANY last word - if thread opener said, that this thread should be closed, it should be done immediately. I am sure, that after things, some members said, Constie doesn't feel to good about this thread and I fully understand, that he is uncomfortable with this thread.

Everything's being said, you have the picture.. done.

(dont want to sound rude, but i feel with constie...)


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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 5 2008, 08:44 PM) *
(dont want to sound rude, but i feel with constie...)


We all do,maybe we just have a little bit
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Hi! :]

The fact that GMC isn't free makes me sleep normally. I woulnd't sleep 1 minute if I knew that these guys here get nothing for the great work they do, and that any moment they can say "To hell with it!" !!!

And actually the site should have "FREE" written everywhere on it! If you don't pay you get great theory lessons by Andrew, a endless supply of inspiration, very much knowledge has been put in this forum, and many more things.

And think about it. I brosed this site every day for 2 months(!!) before I found a way to register(credit cards aren't something everybody has). Should have I done it if there wasn't anything free?

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