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post Jan 12 2008, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jan 12 2008, 02:32 PM) *
GMC as a last resort. interesting.

Was a first choice for me cool.gif

Did I say so? Why are you always picking one thing out of 100 things I said, and regive it the wrong way.

forums sucks -.-

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post Jan 12 2008, 02:50 PM
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Crikey! This thread is hot! cool.gif

I will just quote the dictionary for a moment.

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Lesson: something from which a person learns or should learn; an instructive example:


rolleyes.gif Tada! GMC saying they offer Free Guitar Video Lessons is correct. Licks of the day and the green videos in the video lessons, if you don't learn something from that then IBAMU! laugh.gif

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post Jan 12 2008, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 01:34 PM) *
Did I say so? Why are you always picking one thing out of 100 things I said, and regive it the wrong way.

forums sucks -.-


Well constie, you know a discussion is one thing, but I think you have totally missed the whole concept of GMC.
Kris set out to make a totally uinique learning experience that would stand out from the rest. Gmc.net is successful at its core not only because of its unique approach to teaching through original material - but because of the unique sense of core values members have in discussing topics and issues amoungst each other.

You may belive haveing your say is always a good idea no matter what the outcome. But this is a personal guidline I for one do not follow. You will notice our forum is typically one if not the nicest places to hang out on the planet. This is because we think about the outcome of what we type before we type it.

You may think our forum sucks, but if you sit back for a moment and think about things you will realise that it is not the forum that sucks.


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post Jan 12 2008, 03:37 PM
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if the forum sucks why be a part of it?

if you bring yourself to the forfront with your opinion there is no problem, everyone is entitled to an opinion and of course from time to time that opinion is going to be unpopular, but debate is good, sometimes good changes can come from these type of things.

I understand that you have been a little misunderstood when starting this thread, however, I think if you read back some of your comments, you could have chosen some of them a little more wisely.

Mattacuks last reply sums it up extremely well imo


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post Jan 12 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jan 12 2008, 02:32 PM) *
GMC as a last resort. interesting.

Was a first choice for me cool.gif
edit: you'ce gotta remember that GMC offers advice such as the though process and theory behind each lesson- something that isnt explained in a tablature. Also you are paying for a helpful community that stay patient and always want to help.

Fine you cant jam- but there are collaborations with helpful feedback on each entry (and there are many many different styles to choose from) but back to jamming, iv seen NINJAM mentioned a few times and i wouldnt mind checking it out smile.gif

Unfortunatley my minds all ready made up about the benefits of GMC, maybe i've just got too loyal over the past year, maybe it is how you see it? Either way, GMC works for me and i plan on staying for atleast a half-decade biggrin.gif


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post Jan 12 2008, 04:12 PM
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It's funny: I said "forumS suck" and right after that you act like I said "gmc forum sucks"
And that was exactly what I wanted to say.

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This is because we think about the outcome of what we type before we type it.

I think I'm the one who thinks most about this on the whole world.

Do you remember how this all started? Someone said his teacher isn't as good as gmc and I wanted to tell him what's the advantage of a real teacher.
I said if you are about to SPEED UP you can also use UG, and that I use gmc because I learn more styles and it's visual.

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This is because we think about the outcome of what we type before we type it.

Now you can think about what I wrote before you reply to this. Read it 10times and get everything I said. So I don't have to write it again and again.


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Unfortunatley my minds all ready made up about the benefits of GMC, maybe i've just got too loyal over the past year, maybe it is how you see it? Either way, GMC works for me and i plan on staying for atleast a half-decade

We've had that in school yesterday. If a human has an opinion he is only looking for evidences that prove his opinion.
If he find one that confirms his opinion he's still totally convinced, although he found 10 disadvantages which he just hid.

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post Jan 12 2008, 04:18 PM
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Jeez, you should all calm down a little. This thread is getting to hot.
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post Jan 12 2008, 04:35 PM
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Quote: We've had that in school yesterday. If a human has an opinion he is only looking for evidences that prove his opinion.
If he find one he thinks that confirms his opinion he's totally convinced, although he found 10 disadvantages which he just hid.

Did you not do exactly the same as this in the opening post?


Your opinion was that GMC`s advertising was "curious" so you flung it out there "looking for evidence to prove your opinion" apart from a couple of replies the general concenus was that GMC worked perfectly well as it was.
so out of a couple of replies that agreed, YOU are convinced that your opinion was totally correct, and pushed aside all those opinions that disagreed with yours.

ie "well he agrees with me so I gotta be right"

I do not understand why you would challenge an instructor on the site here that works damn hard FOR YOU sure he gets paid for doing it, but I certainly dont begrudge (and I`m betting that 99% of people on here dont either) him a single penny of what he earns, I`m willing to bet that you are in the 1%.

As Matt said earlier, I think you miss entirely the concept of GMC, and therefore question its integrity and look for the negatives in the site.


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post Jan 12 2008, 04:54 PM
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I do not understand why you would challenge an instructor on the site here that works damn hard FOR YOU sure he gets paid for doing it, but I certainly dont begrudge (and I`m betting that 99% of people on here dont either) him a single penny of what he earns, I`m willing to bet that you are in the 1%.

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Now you can think about what I wrote before you reply to this. Read it 10times and get everything I said. So I don't have to write it again and again.

As I said 100000000000 times I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE PAYMENT.
When will you get it?

This forum took me too much time. I was sitting in front of my PC, helping other people and you thanked me by bringing up old thinks again and again, reading only half of my post and being biased.

Forget about I wanted to help and go on blameing me for some [poo] I said 100 posts ago. That's what you're doing.

and for all you people that wanted to hear it (you want me to say this so I'll do and you'll be satisfied):
GMC FORUM SUCKXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Bye I've had enough

edit: Kris please take this topic away from the mainpage, it's at a damn bad place there.

Edited for language - Andrew

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post Jan 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 03:54 PM) *
Bye I've had enough


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post Jan 12 2008, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 02:14 PM) *
I need something visual.
And I think that's what almost all people want here.
If I request a lesson "In style of ..." couldn't I just download a tab and learn a song from that band? Would be the same effect.


Hi there Constie,

I guess I have to explain what GMC is to me, besides video lessons, and really cool ones by the way, that make this site worth it and completely different from just "downloading a tab", or watching a "video lesson".

In just a couple months that I've been around, this is what I've done:

I've finally learnt some theory behind my playing, I have understood scales, "cages", minor pentatonic is my friend now laugh.gif and Natural minor will soon be too tongue.gif .

I have resolved many doubts using the Theory forum, where Andrew and many other members have always kindly explained things time after time, even though I'm sure they have answered the same newbie questions a thousand times before.

I have learnt about recording, and again everyone has been extreamly helpful giving advice about the most suitable hardware/software, and even configuration tips.

I have uploaded and got some feedback on my first recording experience.

I have done my first collaboration along with many other members and I'm looking forward to hear the final mix tomorrow.

I have discovered some more guitarrists such as SRV, J. Winter or Buckethead (Thanks Mattacuk!), and discussed about many things regarding gear, guitars, amps...

I have read countless threads where I have learnt about a ton of stuff I didn't even know about.

I plan on joining a virtual GMC band sooner or later. I plan on writing some gear review in the future.

Now, most of the things I'm talking about here are not "visual", as you said Constie.

Maybe the visual aspect is what brought many of us here. Granted.
But it is not only that what makes me stay cool.gif

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post Jan 12 2008, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 06:54 PM) *
As I said 100000000000 times I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE PAYMENT.
When will you get it?

This forum took me too much time. I was sitting in front of my PC, helping other people and you thanked me by bringing up old thinks again and again, reading only half of my post and being biased.

Forget about I wanted to help and go on blameing me for some shit I said 100 posts ago. That's what you're doing.

and for all you people that wanted to hear it (you want me to say this so I'll do and you'll be satisfied):
GMC FORUM SUCKXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Bye I've had enough

edit: Kris please take this topic away from the mainpage, it's at a damn bad place there.

Man calm down ohmy.gif , GMC is not the place for this kind of words, no one wants to hear you say that GMC forums sucks, no one will be satisfied to hear it. I ve been following this thread since the begining and i understand your opinion on that free video message, it says videos lessons are free, its not totally true, but almost, and seriously, who cares? Everyone enjoy their membership here. You stated your opinion, and everyone did it aswell, their just defending the place they love, i think its normal. No one forces you to answer to all these posts, some people agreed on your opinion, what do you want more? You cant tell people how to think, if you are pissed off, just walk away, make another thread or, hmm pracitce guitar tongue.gif , i dont know...i think people especially reacted because of your second post in this thread, it sounded a bit rude to me..
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post Jan 12 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 04:54 PM) *
As I said 100000000000 times I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE PAYMENT.
When will you get it?

This forum took me too much time. I was sitting in front of my PC, helping other people and you thanked me by bringing up old thinks again and again, reading only half of my post and being biased.

Forget about I wanted to help and go on blameing me for some shit I said 100 posts ago. That's what you're doing.

and for all you people that wanted to hear it (you want me to say this so I'll do and you'll be satisfied):
GMC FORUM SUCKXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Bye I've had enough

edit: Kris please take this topic away from the mainpage, it's at a damn bad place there.


Constie - you have dissapointed me now! mellow.gif

We featured this thread on the main page to illustrate that we can have civilized discussions even about sensitive topics at GMC. Even though you questioned some fundamental aspects about GMC no adminstrator measure was taken against you or the thread - because you and everybody else kept the thread civilized and we managed to keep a friendly discussion.

This is no longer the case and you are the first one starting to act uncivilized - I think you let yourself down today, and I am very sorry this thread had to go in this direction.

If more people should carry on with the uncivilized manners we will close this thread - but I have big faith in the attitude of fellow gmc:ers and I don't think that will happen. smile.gif


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post Jan 12 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (Constie @ Jan 12 2008, 07:54 AM) *
As I said 100000000000 times I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE PAYMENT.
When will you get it?

This forum took me too much time. I was sitting in front of my PC, helping other people and you thanked me by bringing up old thinks again and again, reading only half of my post and being biased.

Forget about I wanted to help and go on blameing me for some shit I said 100 posts ago. That's what you're doing.

and for all you people that wanted to hear it (you want me to say this so I'll do and you'll be satisfied):
GMC FORUM SUCKXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Bye I've had enough

edit: Kris please take this topic away from the mainpage, it's at a damn bad place there.




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You must realise that taking a totally aggressive stance if you want something changed isnt going to work, people were patient but you've persisted in thinking of anyone who does not agree with you as "the enemy", thats fine to begin with, people will forgive you for it a couple of times but you need to be able to step back from the situation and calm down, also, you cant just start a channel of discussion then close it down when you feel its not benefitting you anymore, thats not what forums are about.

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QUOTE (Fran @ Jan 12 2008, 11:01 AM) *
Hi there Constie,

I guess I have to explain what GMC is to me, besides video lessons, and really cool ones by the way, that make this site worth it and completely different from just "downloading a tab", or watching a "video lesson".

In just a couple months that I've been around, this is what I've done:

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Great post Fran - its amazing to see what you are getting from GMC even as a recent member - thanks!


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jan 12 2008, 05:12 PM) *
Great post Fran - its amazing to see what you are getting from GMC even as a recent member - thanks!


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Its really great to see it all laid out in a big list ! biggrin.gif I have learnt so much in so many areas it may take me all day to make a list out wink.gif


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GMC is one of the best places to be a part of. People are friendly, willing to help each other out and post some really interesting threads in the forums that show people resources they use and which equipment is worth trying out. The lessons are only a small part of the whole community here and the amount of free material is easily enough to say there is free guitar lessons here as there is. Most sites wouldn't offer this much for free and when you pay a very reasonable sum you have one of the best resources out there with some instructors with real talent that Kris has done an amazing job of finding and adding to the list of instructors.

I came here because I saw they had free lessons on here and I saw Kris's You Tube videos and really enjoyed and learnt from them. I came knowing that everything wouldn't be free but was really happy with the amount of the site that could be seen for free. I was then more than willing to pay the money as all the instructors here are incredible and Kris has done a great job in creating this brilliant guitar resource.

I really hope constie that you try to keep posts to a nice level as everybody tries to get on here and you brought up a valid discussion area but you seem to be getting angry at peoples opinions now which is a bad thing sad.gif So show your opinion but also listen to what others have to say and don't just discard it and most of all enjoy GMC biggrin.gif You've paid for it so make the most of the resources on offer and chill smile.gif


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I think its one thing to discuss your pont of view in the hope that you will be trading that view and receiving other views on a topic. Now- from there you can either learn something and see something from somone elses point of view or you can stay unpursuaded.

Both are okay in my opinion.

But one thing worth considering is how we say things when trying to pursuade others....

I think that it'd be a shame to lose somebodys input from the forum just because they misinterpret something that has been said (and we usually perceive things from how we want to perceive them).
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You must realise that taking a totally aggressive stance if you want something changed isnt going to work, people were patient but you've persisted in thinking of anyone who does not agree with you as "the enemy", thats fine to begin with, people will forgive you for it a couple of times but you need to be able to step back from the situation and calm down, also, you cant just start a channel of discussion then close it down when you feel its not benefitting you anymore, thats not what forums are about.

Laters...

One more time:
please read this completly:

I didn't want to convince everyone, that's impossible
I didn't want to change something immediate (said Kris should think about it)
I want YOU to reply to the whole post, instead of one part.

It was like that:
I say "a, b, c, d, e"

Someone just replies to "c" and did like I said "c1"
Next post is "how can you say c1? That's not true!" and I had to vindicate for c1 although I said c.

Now it can never be the same. Murris seems to dislike me which I'm very sad of, and well the others seems to do as well. But they only do because the misunderstood me as someone did like I said "c1".

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