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Re: Kirk Hammet Solos
Viz
Jan 1 2008, 04:44 PM
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Sort of a response to the other Kirk Hammet thread (Some Kindo of Monster) While I love that video, because, just as people have pointed out, it is refreshing to see that everyone is human, I like to counter with a youtube video of my own. I personally think that people cant see the forest for all the trees, meaning there are so many great metal solos created and performed by kirk that people tend to disregard them, focus on really famous ones such as Master of Puppets, and go on to discuss his over use of the wah-wah or whatever.

Anway here are a few enlightening vidoes that has been collecting dust in my bookmark list for a while:

Collection of solos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKiormZsvEg...feature=related

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Since they rarely play those songs live, its hard to find youtube versions of odd songs of the Justice album for example, songs like Shortest Straw and Frayed ends of Sanity, I recommend re-listening those if you have them in your playlist...

New NEM intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubtER-ECMwg...feature=related

And finally a video not by kirk but a piano version of NEM that might be worth a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZK4Hd28VA

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Kirk is a BIG player,no doubt there,you can read this in many ways
but he has left a great mark in guitar history and I surely appreciate that smile.gif

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Jan 1 2008, 04:53 PM
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he, yes perhaps you can read big in many ways, but I sort of see where you are going though smile.gif

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Jan 1 2008, 05:03 PM
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kirk hammet inspired me to play guitar and he is one of my fav players and i agree that some people ignore many of his solos but most guitarists wont do that.
and that "intro" to nothing else matters isnt a new intro, its a kirk "doodle" which led into nothing else matters... they have kirk doodles on every live show tongue.gif

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Sorry, yes I know its a kirk doodle, but you are right that it is not new. But I disagree about guitarits not ignoring his solos. I dont think I ever really listened to the Shortest Straw solo before until a week ago, and I've listened to Metallica for many years (for example). I learned the song Blackened a few days ago (the rythm track) and was amazed by the solo (when I really studied it) though I've heard it many times. smile.gif

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Kirk studied under joe satriani and learned NOTHING. THAT is why i cant respect him.

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Jan 1 2008, 05:16 PM
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i can guarentee he learnt something! even if its just his attitude towards music or how much vibrato to use... maybe satriani's style wasnt the way kirk wanted to go but he used what he learnt in a different style.

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Jan 1 2008, 05:24 PM
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Guitarman700, I am sorry but I cant really care for your posts regarding Kirk or Metallica, you are obliviously unable to give constructive criticism on this topic. I don't really see any reason to phrase a counter argument since there is not much of an argument to counter.

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oh yea... and as for guitarists ignoring kirks solos, you may be one person who has until now, but i didnt, ive listened to metallica for years and i can say that i have attempted to play every solo and listen to almost all of them on a regular basis.

i guess its my word against yours here tongue.gif

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ahaha, I am glad to hear I was wrong smile.gif

Good luck, hope you nail them!
I'd love to hear any recording of it, especially any MoP or Justice solo.

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I was simply stating my opinion, as were you. i respect yours, but it seems you cant respect mine.
@ muntahunta: good luck on the solos hope you nail them! smile.gif

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okay... er, well whatever rows your boat my friend.

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I've always paid attention to his solos, and learned many of them. He's come up with some of the most creative, cool sounding solos ever, imo. It doesn't have to be Sixteenth notes at 300bpm's to be awesome music to me.

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Ok guys, keep it civil ...

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Concerning the thread on "some kind of monsters". It doesn't make any point. James showed kirk a new riff, and it took him a few minutes to get it right. What's the big deal? it was not something so difficult that Kirk couldn't play. He just had to memorize it...

Now, it's clear that Kirk Hammet is not a exceptional guitar player. There are tons of players much better than him (famous or not). However, he's far from being a loser. He wrote some nice solos, he performed tons of shows and sold millions of albums. I think that he's probably the guy that inspired most of us to start guitar in the first place.

Seriously, who cares if Kirk is better than Friedman or whoever? it sounds like "is batman better than superman?". Metallica is a great band, that's a fact!

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QUOTE (Philippe @ Jan 1 2008, 01:57 PM) *
Seriously, who cares if Kirk is better than Friedman or whoever? it sounds like "is batman better than superman?". Metallica is a great band, that's a fact!


THANKYOU!!!

That's a very good way to put it smile.gif

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QUOTE (Philippe @ Jan 1 2008, 08:57 PM) *
Now, it's clear that Kirk Hammet is not a exceptional guitar player. There are tons of players much better than him (famous or not). However, he's far from being a loser. He wrote some nice solos, he performed tons of shows and sold millions of albums. I think that he's probably the guy that inspired most of us to start guitar in the first place.

Exceptional enough to earn him 11th place in RollingStones Magazine's The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. smile.gif

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QUOTE (jacmoe @ Jan 1 2008, 09:06 PM) *
Exceptional enough to earn him 11th place in RollingStones Magazine's The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. smile.gif


He has had various top positions in other charts as well (and I believe he belongs there), but charts are always very subjective, Rolling Stones's more then most.

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QUOTE (Viz @ Jan 1 2008, 09:17 PM) *
He has had various top positions in other charts as well (and I believe he belongs there), but charts are always very subjective, Rolling Stones's more then most.


This ranking has to do with the fame of Metallica, Hammet is the lead guitarist of the band... that's why he's up there. But then, Hetfield should be there too because he contributed certainly more than hammet in the success of the band.

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QUOTE (Philippe @ Jan 1 2008, 09:28 PM) *
This ranking has to do with the fame of Metallica, Hammet is the lead guitarist of the band... that's why he's up there. But then, Hetfield should be there too because he contributed certainly more than hammet in the success of the band.

In 2003 - IIRC - he was the first to enter Guitar Worlds Hall of Fame. laugh.gif

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