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Muris Varajic
post Jan 4 2008, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jan 3 2008, 11:01 PM) *
How about if I post a recording of Bb Beginner in a few days to your forum, would that cheer you up??



Ahh,NOW we're talking!! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (jacmoe @ Jan 3 2008, 10:09 PM) *
Am I missing something here? blink.gif

I mean, I see 10 levels .. smile.gif


You're right,there are 10 levels
but me and some instructors as well are spliting
lesson into 3 parts sometimes,Beginner,Intermediate and Advanced. smile.gif

It's a lot more easier to rate lesson in 10 steps
but it's hilarious to make 10 versions of same lesson laugh.gif


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great topic hear guys. Thanks Andrew for this one. I'v only been playing for a couple months and difinitely consider myself a beginner. I just don't know how you can rate lessons,songs ect with so many techniques. alot has been touched on here.

It's kinda like asking a surgon are you a beginner or advanced. I don't think any would say that they still don't have things to learn. They call there business a "practice" for a reason. There always learning something new. I think there will always be something different. Advanced as Muris is, I think he would still atest to wanting to learn different things to make new sounds.

Just my analogy of it.

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post Jan 4 2008, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (skennington @ Jan 4 2008, 01:27 AM) *
Advanced as Muris is, I think he would still atest to wanting to learn different things to make new sounds.

Just my analogy of it.

Steve


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post Jan 4 2008, 02:20 AM
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I like the idea thet members qualify the lesson, as preview you can post what technical difficulties it has, alt picking, sweep, legatto playing etc. Or put some prerequisites ex: can use the for fingers, can do some fingerpicking.


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QUOTE (Philippe @ Jan 3 2008, 07:05 AM) *
Was Hendrix an advanced player? In any case, he was not that fast, didn't do much tapping or sweeping. Most of the most famous guitarists are not fast players.

To me an advanced player is someone that has a good musical knowledge, can perform well with other musicians, has a decent technique, a good repertoire...

I found this school syllabus and I think it gives a nice level scale. Maybe if i was living in the UK I'd take their test in order to get more motivation to practice.
http://www.rockschool.co.uk/rsl/sites/6/do...labus_guide.pdf


Interesting ratings they have there - as for me I'm a solid four according to them (except in the sight reading department) and I have a lot of the stuff mentioned in level 5 down. In terms of GMC lessons I can play most level 4 lessons, but the level 5 lessons are often too tough - though I can do a few of them pretty well (and I have high standards so when I say I can play them I mean I can play them tongue.gif)

QUOTE (Goliath @ Jan 3 2008, 09:43 AM) *
Now, being the egotistical sap that I am, I didn't bother reading anyone's posts and just jumped right in with a reply to Andrew's original question.

What if you rate it against different criteria for different facets of playing. You could represent this graphically if you wished or have it be a sum of parts type deal. Take 5 criteria to rate a lesson, for arguments sake, I chose speed, technicality (string skips, all down strokes, sweeping,etc), feel (vibrato, bends), and timing (odd time signature or straight forward to the click?), and since I couldn't think of anything, I chose Cowbell.

So while "Don't Fear the Reaper" would rank 3 in Cowbell, it would maybe score a 2 in speed, 2 in technicality, 1 in timing, etc etc.

I spared no expense on this post and generated this graphic as a prototype for ranking lessons. You would go out each arm to whatever degree deemed appropriate then connect the dots and shade the center. Whatever color you shade the center reflects the genre of music the lesson is reflecting.

If you're wondering what piece of software I used to generate it, it's the ultra advanced photo editing software/graphic design called "Paint".
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I think this is a great idea. The chart and everything.


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QUOTE (Goliath @ Jan 3 2008, 01:43 PM) *
If you're wondering what piece of software I used to generate it, it's the ultra advanced photo editing software/graphic design called "Paint".

Don't laugh too much at paint, check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWqRhReaZk


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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 4 2008, 01:00 AM) *
Ahh,NOW we're talking!! biggrin.gif
You're right,there are 10 levels
but me and some instructors as well are spliting
lesson into 3 parts sometimes,Beginner,Intermediate and Advanced. smile.gif

It's a lot more easier to rate lesson in 10 steps
but it's hilarious to make 10 versions of same lesson laugh.gif

It sure is! laugh.gif

I meant the grading: A grade 4 beginner lesson is more difficult than a grade 2 beginner lesson, right? smile.gif

If we cannot do a lesson, we know we'll have to work hard to be able to. tongue.gif


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Start by playing something - a bend, a riff, a scale, a song - very slowly; if you make a mistake, start over; do this over and over, until you can play it flawlessly - and I do mean flawlessly - many times in a row. Next, gradually increase the tempo. Eventually you'll be flailing like a madman.
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post Jan 5 2008, 11:35 PM
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I really miss the option of seeing the difficulty level on the actual lesson page. smile.gif

When you've clicked your way to it from the main page, you can't see how the lesson is graded. sad.gif

The search results pane should show the difficulty level as well ..

((Er, I should probably report this directly to the GMC web admins?))

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Start by playing something - a bend, a riff, a scale, a song - very slowly; if you make a mistake, start over; do this over and over, until you can play it flawlessly - and I do mean flawlessly - many times in a row. Next, gradually increase the tempo. Eventually you'll be flailing like a madman.
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