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post Jan 6 2008, 05:14 PM
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I'm really happy that this lesson I requested seems to be so popular!
I'm sure it will be really helpful to many of us!

To Freebird: I know Muris did a lot of lessons with 16th and 16th triplet notes,
but the problem is to understand and "feel" them,
and I'm afraid that his previous lessons are a bit too challenging and fast
to "have the time to feel the time". smile.gif

Hope you understand my request now.

Ciao, Eddie

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Muris Varajic
post Jan 6 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Jan 6 2008, 05:14 PM) *
Hope you understand my request now.

Ciao, Eddie


We all do Eddie,don't worry at all,
slower lesson for timing is coming up soon. smile.gif


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post Jan 6 2008, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 6 2008, 08:33 PM) *
We all do Eddie,don't worry at all,
slower lesson for timing is coming up soon. smile.gif


Thank you so much.
I'm sure it's going to be a MUST
for anyone who wants to play on time
without hiding behind distortion and delay.
Can't wait for this one!!!

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post Jan 8 2008, 09:09 PM
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Eddie, I would really appreciate this lesson too, because I can't do the triplets in the other lessons up to tempo sad.gif

Thank you Muris smile.gif
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:26 PM
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Hy there, Muris!
Just to thank you personnally for your awsome timing lesson.
I think I'm going to work on this one for a long, long time.
I really think that this is one of the most important lessons on this site
and I'm not going to stop practicing this lesson
till the time changes come to me automatically...
You made me a very happy boy.

Lots of practicing (and counting) in front of me!
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post Jan 23 2008, 07:14 PM
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Glad you like the lesson Eddie,
hope it will improve your timing,
you're more than welcome!! smile.gif


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post Jan 24 2008, 12:52 AM
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Great Lesson to hard for me now but will se later maybe if you made something slower will be fine rolleyes.gif

i'm have just totaly beghiner question---all the lesson is playing on 70bpm??? and you just changing the speed becouse that is Timing Exercise and you are just changing the time intervals and use them on every each beep right??
so if i'm got this right when you have up to tabs the Q tahts a mean you play 1 note on every each beep when there is E you play 2 note per beep or S- 4 note per beat

but what about this

A
E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
--------------10----------10--12--|------10--12--14--10--12--14--15--|
--10--12--14------12--14----------|--14------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
i'm belive here i'm play 2 note per beat right??

D
|---3---| |---3---| |---3---| |---3---|
E E E E E E E E E E E E
--14------12--------------------------------------|
------15------14--15--12--14------12--------------|
------------------------------14------12--14--11--|
--------------------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------------------|
but what about here?? there is mark E which mean eighth notes {2 note per beat} but also |---3---| which mean triplets i'm belive...so i'm lost here which speed is right???


and 1 more question out of this topic on this tab


A
E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
--------------10----------10--12--|------10--12--14--10--12--14--15--|
--10--12--14------12--14----------|--14------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|
----------------------------------|----------------------------------|

is the mark A ---also on Video showing on Video informaction about A-major..what thats realy mean becouse for example A-major chord has note- A C# E but there is not the combinaction so thats be probaly something esle sad.gif rolleyes.gif and what it's



sorry probaly dumb question but i'm lost today blink.gif unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 24 2008, 03:01 AM
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You got everything right Rene,it's lesson about timing,
which means how many notes per beat.
E above tab means 8ths so it's 2 notes per beat.
E with 3 means 8th triplets,3 notes per beat etc.

About A sign.
It is A major,chord in progression at that moment.
You see,you can play pure scale up and down the neck while chords are changing,
but that'll sound "dry" and without thinking,feeling etc.

I'm starting that part with note A and up in the sequences.
You can start it with B or any other note,try and see/hear the result. smile.gif


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post Jan 24 2008, 04:57 AM
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i'm undertsnad what you write bud what about this case
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...iming-exercise/ window 3

you play there first S which is sixteenth notes so i'm belive that is 4 note per beat and then

---3----
S

so thats mean-sixteenth notes triplets??? if yes what kind of speed is here if we still talk about 70bpm
the triplets mark make me trouble rolleyes.gif i'm know thats probalyy easi to understand but i'm still not get it on 100%
it's somewhere here some lesson about this if i'm don't gonna understand that clearly?? sad.gif tongue.gif

and thanks for your responding wink.gif

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post Jan 24 2008, 05:19 AM
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16th triplets are 6 notes per beat,straight 16th are 4 notes per beat,right. smile.gif

Don't worry about tempo now,just try to understand these timings,
speed will come with practicing. wink.gif


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post Jan 24 2008, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 23 2008, 11:19 PM) *
16th triplets are 6 notes per beat,straight 16th are 4 notes per beat,right. smile.gif

Don't worry about tempo now,just try to understand these timings,
speed will come with practicing. wink.gif



thats what i'm trying to do laugh.gif i'm not gonna play the lesson now but i'm interesing to undestand the timing unsure.gif
actualy im know the 16th triplets is 6 note per beat..but i'm dont understand 1 thing why i'm can just put the mark for 16th triplets which is T i'm belive and why is there the---3----
S

so boath of them are now 16th triplets...but the end of the song is build on regular T-16th tripplets which is 6 note per beat..but the part befote is ---3--- S whic is also 16th triplets 6 note per beat but that part sound more slowly

sorry for my stupidity rolleyes.gif ..there is some point what i'm missing


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post Jan 24 2008, 08:00 AM
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Hehe I was playing your timing lesson and during the 3rd section very last bar where it goes 17-16-14 I started to play this song, which I can't remember the name but heres what I played.

e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
d|--------------14-16----16~-15----15-14----16----------------------|
a|--14-16-17 --------17---------16--------16--------------------------|
e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|


e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g|----------------------------16-14---------14--------------------------|
d|--------------14-16----16-------16---16-----------------------------|
a|--14-16-17 --------17-------------17--------------------------------|
e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I then figured it out the next higher part of the song from memory but I wont tab it out. Do you know this song? haha, great lesson btw

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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 4 2008, 11:20 PM) *
No problem,I like cows so bell will be included biggrin.gif

Muris. The guy is in love with a metronome and you say "No problem"?!
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Jan 24 2008, 08:10 AM) *
Muris. The guy is in love with a metronome and you say "No problem"?!
Mommy, I'm scared. This is a weird place. tongue.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Don't know why but I went on laughing
for about 5 minutes after reading this post!
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post Jan 24 2008, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (preownedguitar @ Jan 24 2008, 04:00 PM) *
Hehe I was playing your timing lesson and during the 3rd section very last bar where it goes 17-16-14 I started to play this song, which I can't remember the name but heres what I played.

e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
d|--------------14-16----16~-15----15-14----16----------------------|
a|--14-16-17 --------17---------16--------16--------------------------|
e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|


e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
b|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
g|----------------------------16-14---------14--------------------------|
d|--------------14-16----16-------16---16-----------------------------|
a|--14-16-17 --------17-------------17--------------------------------|
e|------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I then figured it out the next higher part of the song from memory but I wont tab it out. Do you know this song? haha, great lesson btw

Looks like you stumbled upon in The Hall Of The Mountain King. Cool tune.


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Haha Awesome, I didn't know what it was called. One of those tunes stuck in your head from cartoons when you were younger. Thanks!

Heres a video on youtube of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyi3C4gNnE

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Rene,I think you got little confused here. smile.gif

I'm gonna lead you through whole lesson now,explaining all timing from start till end.

-4th notes...1 note per beat
-4th triplets...1 and half note per beat(6 notes per bar)
-8th...2 notes per beat
-8th triplets...3 notes per beat
-16th...4 notes per beat
-16th triplets...6 notes per beat
-32th...8 notes per beat



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This is exactly what I've been looking for, thanks Muris!


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QUOTE (Ghrim @ Jan 24 2008, 07:49 PM) *
This is exactly what I've been looking for, thanks Muris!


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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 24 2008, 10:02 AM) *
Rene,I think you got little confused here. smile.gif

I'm gonna lead you through whole lesson now,explaining all timing from start till end.

-4th notes...1 note per beat
-4th triplets...1 and half note per beat(6 notes per bar)
-8th...2 notes per beat
-8th triplets...3 notes per beat
-16th...4 notes per beat
-16th triplets...6 notes per beat
-32th...8 notes per beat



thanks i'm slowly start geting that..probalyy all i'm need to know what every marks mean{remember} that and i'm be ok ..actualy what made me trouble before was this mark |--3--| but now i'm know thats mark mean triplets so thats why |--3--| S is 16th triplets,,,my friend who play music like 8 years on Viola try to explain me that matematicly why thats like that laugh.gif but he never see tabs he use just notes..so for me be better just remeber that now rolleyes.gif

thankk you--Rene

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