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post Jan 5 2008, 11:40 AM
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hey um i got this vox adv30 amp and one of the effects is a compressor right...............when i trun this on i cannot not notice and difference i heard they were meant to make yur playin tighter or sumthin but i cannot even notice one difference whats the go? and r they worth havin or yur pedal board?

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post Jan 5 2008, 11:55 AM
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Well, what pedal do you use? Maybe its the pedal itself it is not working. Is it new? Is the LED indicator lid?


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post Jan 5 2008, 12:06 PM
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Well I guess the compressor built in your vox is just basic..Maybe go to the store and try out some boss compressors and try to tweak them a little and you will definitely see the difference.Compressor is a nice thing to have in your pedalboard..


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post Jan 5 2008, 12:36 PM
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Good compressor pedals are made by Boss and Behringer. If you have lots of money to waste on the best pedal compressor in the world (IMO) the Keeley Compressor is just awsome.

The first two are probably you best bet for "bang for buck" smile.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 12:44 PM
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Do you like Behringer gear Matt ? I saw that they made some copies of pedals and that they cost something like 20e , but never tried them..How do they work compared to boss ?


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post Jan 5 2008, 12:47 PM
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so what is the actual purpose of the compressor though?

QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 5 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Well, what pedal do you use? Maybe its the pedal itself it is not working. Is it new? Is the LED indicator lid?

nah its just a built in compressor like built into the amplifier which can be tweaked however i still cant notice much difference


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post Jan 5 2008, 02:50 PM
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To put it simple - it compresses the signal - meaning that it makes quieter stuff louder and louder stuff quieter, thus making your signal more compact and "tighter".

Well, I wouldn't really rely much on built in effects. If you really need a compression pedal, buy compression\sustainer from boss. It is a great pedal for boosting leads.


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post Jan 5 2008, 04:16 PM
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I would like to add one thing here,
you can't "hear" much difference in distorted tone while using compressor
but you can "feel" it in playing,tones are longer,you don't have to pick that hard etc.
But if you're using compressor on clean sound,
than difference is more easier to notice,hear and feel. smile.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Bogdan @ Jan 5 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Do you like Behringer gear Matt ? I saw that they made some copies of pedals and that they cost something like 20e , but never tried them..How do they work compared to boss ?


I do Bogdan ! smile.gif I own several lavishly expensive Boss and Ibanez pedals modified by Robert Keeley but I still like that cheap Behringer. I think they are excellent value for money biggrin.gif


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post Jan 5 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 5 2008, 10:16 AM) *
I would like to add one thing here,
you can't "hear" much difference in distorted tone while using compressor
but you can "feel" it in playing,tones are longer,you don't have to pick that hard etc.
But if you're using compressor on clean sound,
than difference is more easier to notice,hear and feel. smile.gif


I agree - its a very subtle effect and can be used for sustain. It comes more into its own when you are mixing songs. For guitar though, a compressor can be used as a kind of level booster for tube amps - gives you more sustain and better distortion.


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+1 with Muris and Andrew. It's partly as a distorted signal already has a high degree of compression - hence you don't 'hear' much variation but as Muris says it is there and you can definitely feel it. A clean sound is more likely to have a wide dynamic range and so compression shows up more. As Andrew says many of the best uses (not all though) of compressors for guitar involve a degree of subtlety - unlike most effects you don't want the processing to jump out and shout at you, it's often more about making you playing sound smoother and more controlled. Compressors are imo one of most under-rated processors which is a real shame as they can do an awful lot once you've got used to using them.

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post Jan 5 2008, 05:07 PM
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I love compression! Especially on a tube amp as like Andrew mentoned it gives you a boost with added sustain! smile.gif

Now if only I could find £180 for that keeley one.... wink.gif


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QUOTE (Bogdan @ Jan 5 2008, 12:44 PM) *
Do you like Behringer gear Matt ? I saw that they made some copies of pedals and that they cost something like 20e , but never tried them..How do they work compared to boss ?

I'm not Matt obviously but my impression is that they work fine. I think they do their best to copy other pedals in detail and the end result is similat. Like the Ibanez tubescreamer that they use the same chip inside and make the look similar too. Same with octave pedals etc etc etc, they make sure the model name gives a lead to what was copied or the color or the looks.

What I don't like about these pedals are that they are made of plastic, probably the life span is shorter than metal pedals, not because of the electronics break but they get stomped into pieces. Another thing is that changing a battery - the Digitech approach to press a pin och each side and the lid pops open - always is troublesome.

But IMHO there's nothing one can complain about with the sound produced if run on batteries. I've only tested the EQ pedal side by side with the original and there the Behringer makes plenty more noice with a transformator connected. Maybe a metal cover would work more as shielding compared to plastic, I don't know. But this is not a problem really since if I play at home I use power adaptor and the noice doesn't bother me in that situation, playing live I always use batteries anyway.

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 5 2008, 04:23 PM) *
I still like that cheap Behringer. I think they are excellent value for money biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 5 2008, 04:07 PM) *
I love compression! Especially on a tube amp as like Andrew mentoned it gives you a boost with added sustain! smile.gif

Now if only I could find £180 for that keeley one.... wink.gif


Don't pay £180 for a Keeley compressor!!!

I bought one a few weeks back, directly from the Keeley web site: $199 + $30 postage. They posted it the same day - and I had it within a week. I got stung for duty etc. once it got here, but I still saved 30 or 40 quid over the £180 price in the UK.


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Jan 5 2008, 04:52 PM) *
I'm not Matt obviously but my impression is that they work fine. I think they do their best to copy other pedals in detail and the end result is similat. Like the Ibanez tubescreamer that they use the same chip inside and make the look similar too. Same with octave pedals etc etc etc, they make sure the model name gives a lead to what was copied or the color or the looks.

What I don't like about these pedals are that they are made of plastic, probably the life span is shorter than metal pedals, not because of the electronics break but they get stomped into pieces. Another thing is that changing a battery - the Digitech approach to press a pin och each side and the lid pops open - always is troublesome.

But IMHO there's nothing one can complain about with the sound produced if run on batteries. I've only tested the EQ pedal side by side with the original and there the Behringer makes plenty more noice with a transformator connected. Maybe a metal cover would work more as shielding compared to plastic, I don't know. But this is not a problem really since if I play at home I use power adaptor and the noice doesn't bother me in that situation, playing live I always use batteries anyway.
Yeah, that's a fact.


Some great points there!! If your on a budget or a new player they are definatly worth a look. It is a shame about the plastic casing though sad.gif

QUOTE (firestarter @ Jan 5 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Don't pay £180 for a Keeley compressor!!!

I bought one a few weeks back, directly from the Keeley web site: $199 + $30 postage. They posted it the same day - and I had it within a week. I got stung for duty etc. once it got here, but I still saved 30 or 40 quid over the £180 price in the UK.


Thanks for the top tip biggrin.gif Im very very poor now, but one day I hope to own one! I know andrew has one I might pinch his while hes not looking unsure.gif laugh.gif smile.gif


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