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post Jan 19 2008, 07:38 PM
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So in chat the other night I was dicussing how i could record some videos of my playing useing my pandora and a camera. I had a good suggestion to use windows movie maker with my line-in as the sound source and my webcam as the video source.

I tried this out today and it worked very well but for the fact the video recorded pretty slow. The sound was superb, and the bonus was that you can hear not only the guitar but the backing track also!! So great sound, but the poor webcam which Is actually high quality did not record so well, only 30fps.

So my question is, can anyone think of a camera device that is as cheap as possile that I can record with?

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post Jan 19 2008, 07:56 PM
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I use a webcam... Logitech quickcam
Digitech gnx4 in the computer and webcam.
I record with Moviemaker (xp version)
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post Jan 19 2008, 07:59 PM
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Hi david! yeah that works well - I wonder why my recording came out so slow, its usually pretty fast when im online unsure.gif smile.gif


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post Jan 19 2008, 08:15 PM
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Matt, I used a Firewire 410 and a Logitech Quick cam for this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...19162&hl=en

and I experienced the same problems you're having.

Maybe try this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?sk...e=09-55296647-2

it's 2.0 MP and up to 30 FPS, I don't think the human eye can see faster than that.
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post Jan 19 2008, 11:58 PM
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Hmm 30fps is fast ... wink.gif Its regular NTSC framerate...Maybe experiment with codec in which movie maker records...I think your problem lies there..Maybe movie maker automatically made 15fps so its slow because of that..


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post Jan 20 2008, 02:25 PM
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30fps is quite enough. If you can see the "slideshow" it is around 10-20 frames per second. Webcam is usually poor framerate. If you can see the slideshowing in the movie maker before you actually record it (like in the monitor window) than its the camera. IT doesent' matter if you render it in 30 fps, you'll still have only ~15fps from the camera.


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post Jan 20 2008, 07:19 PM
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Well my camera should be a pretty good one,its a Creative NX Pro (I belive) and when im online the image is always noticable higherquality than my friends. So are you guys saying it might be a codec or a movie maker setting that halving the frame rate down?

sorry im so noobish when it comes to recording unsure.gif smile.gif


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post Jan 21 2008, 04:19 PM
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I think something with setting up codec and/or movie maker is making the video slower fps...Try playing with settings a little bit more..

Ok more in detail :

Open Movie Maker , go to File tab choose Capture Video. You will see at available devices your web came , click on it to select it.On the right down , there is a configure button.Open it.GO to video settings and adjust the frame rate to 25 (or 30) fps , and choose resolution you want..Close that.As audio source you already know what to choose..After that click NEXT, and after that tab again NEXT.Than you will have an option to choose : Other Settings - and choose Video For Local Playback (2.1 Mbps) - it features 30fps.

Click next...

That way I think you should gain better quality video and audio..

Try it and report what you get wink.gif

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post Jan 22 2008, 05:20 PM
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This is most kind of you Bogdan , and much appreciated.I will try this tonight and let you know how I get on !! wink.gif


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post Jan 22 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 22 2008, 04:20 PM) *
This is most kind of you Bogdan , and much appreciated.I will try this tonight and let you know how I get on !! wink.gif


I gave Bogdans advice a go last night and it did seem to work a lot better, when I played it back it wasnt too bad at all, but after I saved it to my PC (I chose the same format 2.1mbps) it was not as good again for some reason sad.gif

I think the natural light has quite a lot to do with it, I recorded the Beginners improv vid with my webcam but I did it during the day with the curtains wide open, the door wide open to get as much light into the room as possible, the quality on that (altho not brilliant) is much better than the ones I try to do at night with just the light on.

Hopefully you`ll get a better result, I`ve tried saving it in all the different formats but none seemed to make any difference to mine sad.gif


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post Jan 22 2008, 06:40 PM
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Good light is definitely the most important thing here - no camera does a really good job in low light - if you are serious about videoing at night I suggest you get some pwerful flood lighting. You don;t need to spend a fortune on pro gear though I don't think - a trip to your local DIY store will probably do it smile.gif


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Im overwhelmed with this hints and tips!! Its so easy for me to record useing Windows Movie make because I can tap straight of my Pandora unit for the sound. It would be great to get the vision sorted to so I can record some usefull vids that people can benifit from smile.gif


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post Jan 22 2008, 07:51 PM
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Try using Other Settings : High Quality video (large) as settings when saving on computer..
Maybe thats the best option for saving in movie maker ...You can later on compress it to other formats.

Also lighting is VERY important..Especially for web cams...So I suggest using natural day light (open windows etc) ...Also maybe a cheap halogen lamp would do the trick too..

I remember me recording some videos using movie maker and web cam and they turned out pretty good wink.gif


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Any progress Matt ? wink.gif


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Buy some cheap lightnings, you can find it in almost any ilght store. It will definately make your videos shine wink.gif


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