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Muris Varajic
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Hey Eddie & Muris - you guys inspired me to write my latest chords lesson smile.gif

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Hey hey,lesson is great,I'm sure many members will benefit A LOT from it,
thumbs up Andrew,good job!! biggrin.gif


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post Feb 4 2008, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Feb 4 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Thanks Muris!


Feels nice to have inspired someone.
Usually the only one inspired by me is my dog
when I take him for a walk and he does what he needs to! laugh.gif
Great lesson Andrew,
now it's even clearer!

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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Feb 4 2008, 11:34 AM) *
Feels nice to have inspired someone.
Usually the only one inspired by me is my dog
when I take him for a walk and he does what he needs to! laugh.gif
Great lesson Andrew,
now it's even clearer!

Thank you very much,
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post Feb 13 2008, 07:30 AM
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Hello Muris,
I hope you're doing fine with your new album,
and I really hope you'll be satisfied with the result.
I'm sure it will come out great!

My question: I was trying to do the exercise you suggested,
creating chords in the same position on the fretboard.
It's not easy, and it takes long to figure out the notes,
but how do I decide what notes to leave out
when it comes to extended chords and chords in general?
I hope you understand my question.

All the best and good luck with your recordings.
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Muris Varajic
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I was actually thinking of basic chords Eddie,majors and minors.
With extended ones it's another story but main thing is to play
root note and the note that clarifies it,9th,11th etc.
You you can leave out 5th,3rd etc,depends of the grip. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 13 2008, 05:29 PM) *
I was actually thinking of basic chords Eddie,majors and minors.
With extended ones it's another story but main thing is to play
root note and the note that clarifies it,9th,11th etc.
You you can leave out 5th,3rd etc,depends of the grip. smile.gif


Oh, ok! Good to know!
I was starting to get a little depressed!
I'll just stick to majors and minors then...
BTW, I'm working on your contest. wink.gif
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That's great Eddie,I'm sure your take will be quite interesting!! smile.gif

I know that cause you did some nice improvisations over my lessons so far. biggrin.gif


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post Feb 14 2008, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 14 2008, 03:29 AM) *
That's great Eddie,I'm sure your take will be quite interesting!! smile.gif

I know that cause you did some nice improvisations over my lessons so far. biggrin.gif


Thank you! Wow! I'll do my best! rolleyes.gif

One question: can you edit the topic title and change it to "basic and extended chords"?
I'm asking you this because I don't want to start too many threads (I'm afraid to get lost)
and I would like to post here all my questions about chords in general,
a bit like my "4 basic scales" thread.
If you can't I'll just start a "basic chords" thread.

Thank you.

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Done. wink.gif

I see you're lot into theory lately Eddie,I'm damn glad!! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 14 2008, 08:39 AM) *
Done. wink.gif

I see you're lot into theory lately Eddie,I'm damn glad!! biggrin.gif


Hy Muris, your Mixo Riffing is great! I'm really loving it, and it's great for my timing!
Now to chords: I'm trying to do your 1 position chords exercise
and I was wondering, do you think it's also a good idea
to play different chords and to try to get used to the sound of them?
I did a little backing track with drums and only a bass in C (root+5th, without 3rd)
and I played C and Cmin all the time and I am getting used to the "sound" of these.
Do you think it's a good idea to just play chords
and trying to memorise the soud of them?
Also, is there a reason why you left out the 5th of E min in the Mixo riffing?

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Muris Varajic
post Feb 20 2008, 01:26 AM
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It's always good to play chords alone Eddie,why not. smile.gif
Remember one thing,whatever you're playing=you're learning something.
Just keep it up. wink.gif

About that "croped" Em7.
It's Em7 tho,not just Em,right? blink.gif
So,it's classic "rocking" grip for min7 chord,
root-(5th out)-min7th and min 3rd(in octave).
It's classic grip when you have some distortion ON,
adding 5th would make some mess,try it and you'll see.
With 5th inside you have one 3rd interval(from 5th to 7th)
and usually it doesn't come out nicely with on distorted sounds.

But if you're using clean sound,well,that's another story,
feel free to play as many 3rds as you like. smile.gif


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[quote name='Muris' date='Feb 20 2008, 01:26 AM' post='141333']
It's always good to play chords alone Eddie,why not. smile.gif
Remember one thing,whatever you're playing=you're learning something.
Just keep it up. wink.gif

About that "croped" Em7.
It's Em7 tho,not just Em,right? blink.gif


Oh, yes! Emin7 because of the note D!
And you are right (of course), I tried playing the 5th too
with distortion and it was really messy!
But clean it's beautiful!
Thank you

I'll be back soon with more chords questions!

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Hy Muris, here's my second post this morning! dry.gif
As you know I'm doing your Mixo riff lesson
and I came up with this: Attached File  minor_3rd.mp3 ( 159.59K ) Number of downloads: 185


Now, trying to see what note it is (it's the last in the riff)
I saw that it is a minor 3rd, and not a major 3rd like in the Mixo mode.
Now, with a power chord no problems, since it doesn't have a 3rd,
but if I was to strum along would I have to shift briefly from A7 to A min?
Or are there other chords to highlight that minor 3rd?
And on the G part, could I also play a Gmaj7 because of the F# in the riff?
And a bit off topic, why does that note sound good to me even if the minor 3rd is out of scale?

Hope you see my point.
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This is sort of mix of A Mixolydian and A Dorian. smile.gif

You play C# on A string 4th fret and then C on G string 5th fret.
Nothing wrong here,it's sounds damn rockin'. wink.gif
And the only difference between Mixolyidian and Dorian is the 3rd btw.
So you can shift between major and minor 3rd without making lot of mess,
if you do it wisely of course.
Sometimes you can use C as a passing note to C#,try that one as well.
Gmaj7 chord is included in both A Mixo and A Dorian,nothing wrong in there too. smile.gif


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Hy Muris, hope all is well...
I was practicing 7th chords,
and I came up with a simple progression that I like very much:
it's Amaj7, Amaj7, Fmaj7, Cmaj7...
I did a little BT and played A ionian over Amaj7
and then C ionian over Fmaj7 and Cmaj7. Anything wrong?
Could you please tell me what scales and why
you would use over such a progression?
Thank you.
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Hello Eddie. smile.gif

I see you're on some theory boost,you've started to combine keys,modulations,well done!!
So with Amaj7 you're in key of A( A Ionian works perfect),
and with Fmaj7 and Cmaj7 you're in key of C,4th and first degrees (C Ionian is perfect here).
Your progression is Amaj7-Amaj7-Fmaj7-Cmaj7.
Now try with using Fmaj7 instead of Cmaj7 but still use C Ionian(A Aeolian) over it.
See/hear the result and share your thoughts with me. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 23 2008, 02:26 AM) *
Hello Eddie. smile.gif

I see you're on some theory boost,you've started to combine keys,modulations,well done!!
So with Amaj7 you're in key of A( A Ionian works perfect),
and with Fmaj7 and Cmaj7 you're in key of C,4th and first degrees (C Ionian is perfect here).
Your progression is Amaj7-Amaj7-Fmaj7-Cmaj7.
Now try with using Fmaj7 instead of Cmaj7 but still use C Ionian(A Aeolian) over it.
See/hear the result and share your thoughts with me. smile.gif


Hy Muris, so here I am with my impression of the C Ionian (A Aeolian)
over the new progression:
at first I didn't notice anything while playing,
but then I started feeling that something was somehow missing,
that it didn't resolve, or close...
So I said to myself: the first progression "closed" in C,
but this time it closes in F, so let's try keeping C Ionian over the first Fmaj7
and then let's modulate to F Ionian (C mixolydian (5th degree of F) or A Phrygian (3rd degree of F))
letting the Bb get heard and let's see what happens.
To me it sounded good, especially if using the Bb at the end before returning to A Ionian.
Does it make sense? Please tell me if this choice is wrong!!!
Thank you, Eddie

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