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post Feb 3 2008, 01:49 PM
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Hi!

I was wondering...
What the ideal pick-up height? (How much spaces between strings and pick-up?)
And how does that affect your tone? How higher the pick-up is, how ... you sound is?

Hope anyone can help smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2008, 02:51 PM
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A friend of mine is a pro at that kind of stuff. He raised my humbucker and notw the sound is really better!
It's now about 3 mm from the strings...


QUOTE (Davidian @ Feb 3 2008, 07:49 AM) *
Hi!

I was wondering...
What the ideal pick-u^p height? (How much spaces between strings and pick-up?)
And how does that affect your tone? How higher the pick-up is, how ... you sound is?

Hope anyone can help smile.gif
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Muris Varajic
post Feb 3 2008, 02:57 PM
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It quite depends of what kind of tone/attack you want.
Higher the pickup the more aggressive and with attack sound will be,
put it lower and you'll get smoother and softy sound.


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post Feb 3 2008, 03:02 PM
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It's a matter of balance. The lower yo get the less vibration of the string you get picked up form the magnet, and it sounds thin. If you go higher, the sound is more powerful, but if you go too high, again the thin sound appears, but this time different frequencies cutoff. The goal is to hit the sweet spot by trial and error, and to balance the output of all your pickups nicely.

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post Feb 3 2008, 05:33 PM
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Thanks guys! Awesome replies! smile.gif
I'll do as Ivan says: trial and error

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post Feb 3 2008, 06:41 PM
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You're welcome. smile.gif

Just try few settings/combinations and see the results,
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post Feb 3 2008, 06:42 PM
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post Feb 3 2008, 07:28 PM
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post Feb 3 2008, 11:18 PM
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supposed to get more sustain if u get the pickups further away from the strings?
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post Feb 4 2008, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (kevin-riff-after-riff @ Feb 3 2008, 11:18 PM) *
supposed to get more sustain if u get the pickups further away from the strings?


Opposite,to get more sustain you have to put it closer.
You might get some frequencies too boosted so choice is yours.
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post Feb 4 2008, 12:25 PM
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I think what Kevin meant is that if you got the humbuckers to close to the strings you can suffer from string pull, which would cost you sustain. I don't know how big this effect really is though. unsure.gif


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QUOTE (Mr T @ Feb 4 2008, 12:25 PM) *
I think what Kevin meant is that if you got the humbuckers to close to the strings you can suffer from string pull, which would cost you sustain. I don't know how big this effect really is though. unsure.gif


You mean if string touches pickups when ringing heavily?
That'd cost you sustain,that's for sure.


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post Feb 4 2008, 12:34 PM
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I put the pick-up a little closer to the strings. But since I can't play with my amp this week (neighbours and stuff... It's "too loud"), I'll go to a friend this afternoon and try it there. I'll keep you updated smile.gif
But what I've noticed... I can adjust the little 'metal' circles in the pick-ups too... Each one of them. Is it necessary?
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post Feb 4 2008, 12:35 PM
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It's about the magnetic force the pickups have on your strings, not the actual touching of the strings.


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post Feb 4 2008, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (Mr T @ Feb 4 2008, 12:35 PM) *
It's about the magnetic force the pickups have on your strings, not the actual touching of the strings.


Oh yeah!!
If pickup is some heavy humbucker then having it too close might affect the sustain.
I didn't understand,my bad. smile.gif


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post Feb 4 2008, 12:45 PM
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No problem.
I don't really have any real experience with adjusting pickup heights myself though, so I don't really know how big the effect is. But I read somewhere that it will also affect how your string moves right above the pickup, which would result in another movement there then on other parts of the string. And that should sound pretty bad.


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i like the bridge pickup (emg) close to the string as possible and the neck one far away, u get that noticible tone of a warm neck n thick bridge sound...


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It is true that sustain of the strings is shortened with the smaller distance between the pickup and the strings, naturally, because of the string pull. But this difference in sustain is barely perceptual. With the guitar with one hum, it is too small to make a difference. On a guitars with 3 hums there is some audible string pull issues but that's small potatoes too. There's an old chinese one - The one who wants sustain - gets sustain. laugh.gif


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