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Esp Or Ibanez, What is the better choice?

Jelle View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 12:11 AM
Feb 8 2008, 12:11 AM	GMC:er Posts: 22 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgium	Hey, I'm kinda in a bind here. I'm planning on buying a new guitar. I got a budget around 2000 €. So what is the better choice? An ESP eclipse II (vintage black) or an comparable guitar by ibanez? curious about your opinions. grtz You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Gen View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 12:13 AM
Feb 8 2008, 12:13 AM	GMC:er Posts: 541 Joined: 8-May 07 From: Geneva, Switzerland	I would go for the eclipse II without any doubt. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "Fact is, nothing in the world bores me more than gear...If I played thru your rig, I would still sound like me. Van Halen would sound like Van Halen. Brian May...etc. Very early in my career I decided to focus on creating music and not being a guitar tech. Being a good guitar tech is a very different and extremely difficult job, so why not leave it to a pro?" Marty Friedman - Guitars: ESP LTD viper-500, a fake strat and an acoustic guitar( dont know the brand) Amp: Randall RX20R Effects: Boss mt 2 distortion pedal, Line 6 pod floor plus

RandomVictim View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 12:24 AM
Feb 8 2008, 12:24 AM	GMC:er Posts: 96 Joined: 24-January 08	Ibanez Jem you wont regret it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars Eric Johnson Sig Strat Gibson SG Special Esp Ltd EC-1000 deluxe Larivee Acoustic Takamine 12 String Amps Mesa Boogie Express 5:50 Line 6 Spider III HD75 head Line 6 Spider III Cab with C30 speakers Vox AD30 Marshall MG10 Pedals Line 6 Pod X3 Slash Sig Wah Dan Electro Cool Cat Chorus Dan Electro FAB Echo BB PREAMP! Boss MT-2 FBV Express

Hisham Al-Sanea View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 12:29 AM
Feb 8 2008, 12:29 AM	Instructor Posts: 4.085 Joined: 19-October 07 From: middle east / lebanon	i think if you have a money should be lespaul or USA strato You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- email me *my video lessons* *instructor board*

MickeM View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 01:06 AM
Feb 8 2008, 01:06 AM	Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader Posts: 8.562 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Stockholm, Sweden	Between the two I'd go for the ESP You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My bands homepage All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello

OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM
Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	I wouldn't get either but if I was forced in a life or death situation I'd go for ESP as I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

Goliath View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 09:29 PM
Feb 8 2008, 09:29 PM	GMC:er Posts: 667 Joined: 6-July 07 From: Atlanta, GA, USA	That's really apples and oranges. I'd take the Eclipse II over a Gibson, but I like metal and Gibsons aren't really equipped for it out of the box quite like an ESP. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "King V" enthusiast

SLASH91 View Member Profile	Feb 8 2008, 10:13 PM
Feb 8 2008, 10:13 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.259 Joined: 6-June 07 From: Louisiana	QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 8 2008, 07:15 AM) I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez OMG, you didn't just say that!!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "Remember to live, eat, sleep and breathe music for the mind, play from your heart and never be swayed by the current trends"- Rusty Cooley My gear: Marshall Valvstate Digitech Distortion Factory Jackson RR24 (Randy Rhoads) Ibanez RG2550e A ripoff brand acoustic guitar and a Yamaha Classical guitar :)

preownedguitar View Member Profile	Feb 11 2008, 10:09 AM
Feb 11 2008, 10:09 AM	GMC:er Posts: 329 Joined: 5-May 07 From: Kansas	There have been some very good cheese boards to date. I take it as a compliment! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strings: Any 9-42's for strings. Amp: Carvin Bel Air 212 (2x12 50 Watt all tube), Carvin 212E Cabinet (2x12 120w) Gutars: Ibanez RG2550e Prestige, Galaxy black 94' Fender Stratocaster Black w/Black pearl pickguard Pedals: Keeley Flexi 4x12 Ibanez Tube Screamer Keeley DS-1 Ultra Keeley Compressor Morley Bad Horsie 2 Contour Wah Pod X3 Live -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	Feb 11 2008, 12:12 PM
Feb 11 2008, 12:12 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	I've never played an Esp that suited me perfectly but I would always choose one before an Ibanez. It would be the best if you take the eclipse and a comparable Ibanez and try them out a a music store. You will definitely prefer one of them. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Scott Gentzen View Member Profile	Feb 11 2008, 12:53 PM
Feb 11 2008, 12:53 PM	GMC:er Posts: 683 Joined: 16-January 07 From: Centreville, VA, USA	QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Feb 11 2008, 06:12 AM) I've never played an Esp that suited me perfectly but I would always choose one before an Ibanez. It would be the best if you take the eclipse and a comparable Ibanez and try them out a a music store. You will definitely prefer one of them. That's some great advice...doing an A/B test in a shop. I own an older version of the Eclipse now alongside an 80's Ibanez. I can do my own test, but what I have isn't like what you're going to try out new in a guitar shop. Both brands have some interesting stuff across different price points. For what it's worth, I prefer how the Roadstar sounds and I prefer how the Eclipse feels. But what it comes down to is my own preferences and the individual characteristics of each guitar. I'm sure there's an Ibanez out there that I prefer the feel of and an ESP that sounds better. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: ESP Semi-Hollow Eclipse, 1984 Ibanez Roadstar RS440, Peavey T-60, Daisy Rock Rock Candy Custom Amps: Peavey Transformer 112, Epiphone Valve Jr head with custom 2x12 cab Pedals: Boss TU-2, Budda Bud-Wah, Chuck Collins Harmonic Percolator clone

Tomotoms View Member Profile	Feb 11 2008, 01:02 PM
Feb 11 2008, 01:02 PM	GMC:er Posts: 148 Joined: 27-May 07	According to this poll, more GMC members use Ibanez than any other type of guitar. There's no real way anyone can tell you what to go for as you'll have your own individual preference for sound and feel. Personally I prefer Ibanez. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Jelle View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 12:11 AM
Feb 12 2008, 12:11 AM	GMC:er Posts: 22 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgium	well thanks for the advice,i'll try them both and see what fits me.. And yes if i had the money i'd buy both of them You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Pavel View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 12:50 AM
Feb 12 2008, 12:50 AM	Instructor Posts: 3.764 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Rijeka, Croatia	I think you got all the advice you could in the above posts Try them both and see it for yourself You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

Juan M. Valero View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 01:38 AM
Feb 12 2008, 01:38 AM	Instructor Posts: 4.270 Joined: 6-August 07 From: Girona - Spain	QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM) I'd rather play a cheese board than an Ibanez I want to see this !!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit : www.myspace.com/juanmvalero Video lessons ; Instructor board ; Recording lessons

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 01:42 AM
Feb 12 2008, 01:42 AM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	Sorry for interception but for 2000 € you can get something like Pensa,Musicman,PRS,Suhr,Gibson etc or even to build a fine custom. Both Ibanez and ESP are cool brands but you can spend you money on more classy instrument, no offense tho, that's just my personal opinion . You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Tomotoms View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM
Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM	GMC:er Posts: 148 Joined: 27-May 07	QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 12 2008, 12:42 AM) Sorry for interception but for 2000 € you can get something like Pensa,Musicman,PRS,Suhr,Gibson etc or even to build a fine custom. Both Ibanez and ESP are cool brands but you can spend you money on more classy instrument, no offense tho, that's just my personal opinion . More classy than a JEM?!?!?!? Ok, it might look like a bachelors pad in the 80s, but the tone...THE TONE!!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM
Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (Tomotoms @ Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM) More classy than a JEM?!?!?!? Ok, it might look like a bachelors pad in the 80s, but the tone...THE TONE!!! Mostly because of TONE,richness of the tone,yeah You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Goliath View Member Profile	Feb 12 2008, 03:57 PM
Feb 12 2008, 03:57 PM	GMC:er Posts: 667 Joined: 6-July 07 From: Atlanta, GA, USA	If you get an Eclipse, I wouldn't get the EMG models, if you're paying that kind of scratch for those quality woods, let them have a chance to affect the tone, and not just belt out the old constant that EMG is heralded for. You could buy a cheaper guitar with EMG's if you want that crunch. I'd look at the SD loaded Eclipse. the SD Eclipse I'd put against the JEM for tone every day. Evolution/Basswood isn't for everyone. JEM will be more playable unless you're an LP fan where you need that heft. Both are fine instruments. You really can't go wrong, you just need to figure out what suits your tastes. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "King V" enthusiast

vikingraider1 View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 02:13 AM
Feb 17 2008, 02:13 AM	GMC:er Posts: 47 Joined: 15-February 08 From: London - Home of West Ham United	Mate, go for a vintage Charvel Model 6. These are the best kept secret when it comes to guitars. Just read the reviews on harmony central. And you'll have change from your budget to keep the missus sweet when she discovers that you've bought a new axe. In the words of Erroll Brown from Hot Choclate... "Everyone's a winner" You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by vikingraider1: Feb 17 2008, 02:23 AM -------------------- My Gear Washburn USA Custom Shop Idol, Washburn WI65 Idol, Washburn WI64 Idol, Schecter C-1 Exotic, Schecter C-1 Stealth, Washburn WI66ANC Nick Catanese Signature, 1980s Burny Les Paul, Peavey Wolfgang Standard, Peavey 5150 MKI Combo, Marshall DSL 201, Morely Mark Tremonti Wah, Decimater Noise Gate, Zoom G2 1.u, Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster, Basses: Fender Jazz Bass, Fender Precision, Warwick Corvette 5 String

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