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Xranthoius
post Feb 10 2008, 05:05 AM
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Okay so I made this thread for many reasons. I would like to know how to improve playing by ear and making out each indivudual note... What songs are easier to learn by ear than others? What is the easiest and fastest way to develop relative pitch? Also... I have heard a rumor that it is physically impossible to train your ear to have perfect or absolute pitch, and that you must be born with it. Is that true!!? Hope not... dry.gif

Last question, how many gmcer's have perfect pitch!!? Any tips for training your ear better??


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post Feb 10 2008, 05:29 AM
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You kind of answered your own question. The only way to play by ear is to listen and learn by ear (practice, licks and music without video, tab or sheet music). You are still young so you need to give it some time. Yes, some people are born special and have perfect pitch. They are the few. You can train your ears and brain if you just give it some time. This can be very frustrating, trust me I know. That is how I learned most of what I know. Also being around (and playing) with some of the best players you can find (just like here at GMC) will help speed up the process.


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post Feb 10 2008, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (Xranthoius @ Feb 10 2008, 05:05 AM) *
I have heard a rumor that it is physically impossible to train your ear to have perfect or absolute pitch, and that you must be born with it. Is that true!!? Hope not... dry.gif

Not!!!....it is a question of practise.....there is a factor of birth tallent off course....but there is no such thing as inposiblle...I am from a music family..my mother is a opera singing solist in Belgrade Teathre...my older syster is on a music academy(music teory)and she have absolute pich ear...and for her master degree she pick a subject "absolute pich"...I reed it and the theorey is if she had not gone and finish music school she woud not be an absolut pich person... a sad it before there is only 3-6% of absolut tone deff people in the world every thing elese can be practise.....hope I help a litlle smile.gif...
...and I can tell you how we practis pich in scholl.....profesor give one note on the piano and ask us to give him 3 whole tones up..or down...etc..every interval...and...endless practis make your brain remembers...there are funkcions...in a scale...traning your brain to remembere how woud a dominant scale(V.. or to explane mor..hov G major sound before the I C major...i it is a C major scale....)and so on...so it is all a bout the practise...

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post Feb 10 2008, 05:51 AM
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QUOTE (Nemanja @ Feb 9 2008, 10:30 PM) *
Not!!!....it is a question of practise.....there is a factor of birth tallent off course....but there is no such thing as inposiblle...I am from a music family..my mother is a opera singing solist in Belgrade Teathre...my older syster is on a music academy(music teory)and she have absolute pich ear...and for her master degree she pick a subject "absolute pich"...I reed it and the theorey is if she had not gone and finish music school she woud not be an absolut pich person... a sad it before there is only 3-6% of absolut tone deff people in the world every thing elese can be practise.....hope I help a litlle smile.gif...
...and I can tell you how we practis pich in scholl.....profesor give one note on the piano and ask us to give him 3 whole tones up..or down...etc..every interval...and...endless practis make your brain remembers...there are funkcions...in a scale...traning your brain to remembere how woud a dominant scale(V.. or to explane mor..hov G major sound before the I C major...i it is a C major scale....)and so on...so it is all a bout the practise...


Cool I never though of doing it that way! Thanks, both of you biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2008, 05:58 AM
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very welcome.....smile.gif


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yeah, I gonna give you a lick to another topic where we talk about a program to pratice your ear skills wink.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=10586


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post Feb 10 2008, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 10 2008, 12:54 AM) *
yeah, I gonna give you a lick to another topic where we talk about a program to pratice your ear skills wink.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=10586

Many thanks Juan! I'm downloading it right now! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Feb 10 2008, 06:17 PM
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I could benefit from some ear excercises that;s for sure. I allready have a relative pitch, and quite often fingers go themselves on the exact notes I listen too, when I play I use my hearing too.

Sistematically, with proper exercises, man can achieve apsolute pitch, but it takes years of practice.


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post Feb 10 2008, 07:06 PM
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Relative pitch has most of the use today,
and it can be achieved by daily playing,listening to music,singing etc.
Learn as many song as you can by ear,first simple songs,progressions,leads etc
then slowly into more complex stuff as you feel more comfortable for the quest.


I wouldn't say you can practice perfect pitch tho,
I believe you have to be born with it.
Imagine,there's no sound around you and then you hear a note...and you say "it's B".
Nothing before,to have orientation,just the single note.
You may try to "remember" sound of specific key but you won't hit it correctly every time,trust me...

Go for relative pitch and forget about perfect if you don't have it already,my 2 cents. smile.gif


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Interesting, I definitely don't have perfect pitch sad.gif , but I guess I'm slowly getting better at relative pitch, practicing scales.

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QUOTE (Xranthoius @ Feb 10 2008, 06:00 PM) *
Many thanks Juan! I'm downloading it right now! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Thanks to the solfege team wink.gif


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post Feb 10 2008, 08:00 PM
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With relative pitch, do you still have the ability to hear a chord, and able to tell what notes it consists of and exactly what that chord is?


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QUOTE (Xranthoius @ Feb 10 2008, 07:00 PM) *
With relative pitch, do you still have the ability to hear a chord, and able to tell what notes it consists of and exactly what that chord is?

relative pitch is the ability to say what what a note/chord/interval is on the basis that you have a tonal center first. People with absolute pitch can do this without a tonal center/referrence given to them as they dont need to 'compare' the tones with eachother- they can just say "A, B, C#" etc.

Many also say the some with absolute pitch can tell you what frequency/note regular objects make; eg a car horn etc
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Here's what I do per example.
I listen to the tune(not too complex) and figure out progression by ear,degrees,types of chords etc.
I don't need guitar for that.
That is relative pitch and I CAN'T name the key,
except if I hear use of open string/s or som as a guide, but never mind.

And with absolute pitch I would be able to name the key as well.
In my case,well, I can give correct answers to the key here and there
but mostly it would be miss,
which is sort of guessing,blind shots. biggrin.gif


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