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Apr 18 2008, 06:53 AM
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Apr 20 2008, 11:46 PM
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I dislike pretty much all metalcore. Hardcore I can give or take, mostly give. The Shape of Punk To Come though is a killer album.
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Apr 21 2008, 12:54 AM
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for all the people confusing hardcore "metal" to the real hardcore, which is hardcore punk... well this is a footage of one of my fav hardcore bands.
Millions Of Dead Cops -------------------- |
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Apr 21 2008, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (VinceG @ Apr 20 2008, 03:54 PM)  for all the people confusing hardcore "metal" to the real hardcore, which is hardcore punk... well this is a footage of one of my fav hardcore bands. Millions Of Dead Cops This has bothered me since i first heard the term, Most people arent even aware of Hardcore Punk, or i should just say Hardcore. |
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May 7 2008, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (VinceG @ Apr 20 2008, 11:54 PM) for all the people confusing hardcore "metal" to the real hardcore, which is hardcore punk... well this is a footage of one of my fav hardcore bands. Millions Of Dead Cops MDC - great choice and thanks for reminding me of them Vince  .I sort of get lost in the terminology/distinction/differences here so I'm probably wrong but others that spring to my mind are: Black Flag Henry Rollins Fugazi Minutemen Red Kross and I guess pretty much all who were/are on SST or Discord? One distinction, for me rightly or wrongly, is that there is a leftist politics to the groups and record labels, whether anti-capitalist or more widely, albeit that not all the fans were necessarily interested or agreed with this. This politicised element kind of reminds me of the late great Crass and a few others from the UK punk scene.. Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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May 7 2008, 03:50 PM
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Cheers Hristian,
and you're absolutely correct that some were indeed Far Right. Crass positioned themselves perhaps as more an Anarchist group (though what form of anarchy is debatable - anti capitalist and pro green and radical feminist maybe?). That and they were very much in to people questioning and thinking for themselves rather then just accepting what they're told from whoever: 'Movements are systems and systems kill. Movements are expressions of the public will. Punk became a movement 'cos we all felt lost, but the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost. Punk narcissism was a social napalm, Steve Jones started doing real harm. Preaching revolution, anarchy and change as he sucked from the system that had given him his name.' (Punk is Dead - Crass) I still remember a Crass gig that didn't go much more 10 minutes before a group of Far Right attacked the group btw. Crass though were great to catch live, albeit sometimes a bit shambolic but lots of energy and commitment. I think they got banned from one, or more, venue/s though for refusing to charge a set admission fee on the policy that you paid what you could afford - something that Fugazi did as well. 'White Punks on Hope' great song btw - one of my fav Crass one's as well. Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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May 19 2008, 02:45 PM
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Only just back from doing some work abroad Hristian - so apologies only just seen this
but agree 100% that Crass saw all politics as a form of organisation that limits and straitjackets us in to a mindless conformity. Anarchy of course is a bit like music - lots of different forms from Right Wing Libertariansim through to Leftist Anarcho Black Flag (not the group but the group's politics parallels it quite a bit - politically more 'revolution by any means necessary'). Crass's Anarchism sort of crosses across several different forms to my mind but Bakunin does seem theoretically to be a good point of conformity for them from his 'absolute rejection of all authority' - Kropotkin maybe another good influence (society without imposed authority) as Crass don't, to my mind, argue for no society but for no authority? BTW - something on Riot Grrrl bands sounds great to me particularly if it moves beyond Hole/Babes in Toyland (nothing against either but there's so much more  ). Maybe there's some room for talk about Anarchist influenced bands like The Durriti Column (who I think got their name from Buenaventura Durritti - the Spanish Anarchist though maybe not much other then a name  ), Red Emma (Emma Goodman), The Minutemen and so on .All this talk of Crass, Anarchy and Riot Grrrl sort of brings to mind Emma Goodman, 'if I can't dance I don't want to be part of the revolution' .Cheers, Tony ps anyone interested in some of the minutae of Anarchy - there's a great book called 'Demanding the impossible - a history of Anarchism' by Peter Marshall. And sorry Davidian for also drifting off topic. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Jun 24 2008, 10:15 PM
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One more suggestion. Swedish boys Path of No Return are a brilliant band and a great live act! They've toured with parkway drive and so on. So check em out!
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