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post Feb 11 2008, 05:52 PM
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Hi GMCers,
I started guitar around 1 and a half years ago and around the same time my sister bought herself a keyboard. We both took lessons in some institutes and hated it cause they made us play classical songs out of some books. So we decided to quit. I took lessons off UG (also various other free sites) and later joined GMC while my sis just gave up on keyboard. Today she picked it up again and decided to play. Her goal is to buy a good piano within a few months (as a birthday gift) but seriously she cant really play.

So what would be a good approach to learning piano. Is there some things she should start with first. I think she remembers how to read sheet music, but i guess she needs to refresh on that too.

I got some piano tabs for like Umbrella by Rhianna but she found them hard. So could you also recommend some easy and interesting piano songs. Ill get her signed up for lessons in a few weeks till then i just need something to keep her practicing. Thanks


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post Feb 11 2008, 08:44 PM
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Me too is trying to learn to play the piano, if somebody knows any particular book or a lesson it would be awesome to share it with us. Thanks! smile.gif


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post Feb 11 2008, 08:57 PM
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well if we take in connsider that you have previosly learnd knolage and you know notes and notes on keyboard...I think the scales trough 2 octavs one handed and latter two handed...will be good to start...an then chords...and then some begginer songs...


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post Feb 11 2008, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Nemanja @ Feb 11 2008, 02:57 PM) *
well if we take in connsider that you have previosly learnd knolage and you know notes and notes on keyboard...I think the scales trough 2 octavs one handed and latter two handed...will be good to start...an then chords...and then some begginer songs...


Theory is the same, the notes are arranged differently and in a wider range but they're the same too. If you have your theory down, you're a few steps ahead of the game.

What's different is the mechanics of playing. All 10 fingers plus your feet are more independent players. You're pressing a key down through a good half-inch of travel.

It's one thing if you're just knocking out a sketch of a backing track for some guitar but if you're playing the instrument, it's totally a different critter.


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post Feb 11 2008, 09:20 PM
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Good topic. I want to learn piano but I don't know where to start. Anyone with recommendations about books, software, etc. for a beginner would be appreciated! smile.gif
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post Feb 11 2008, 10:13 PM
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Any tips from those who do know how to play. What is the best position for the tip of the finger on the keys and etc. what do do with teh hands, adn how to hold tehm.


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post Feb 12 2008, 08:50 AM
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here's one tip smile.gif

it is very important that your hands are relaxed when playing and there is a good exercise for that.. press any keys on keyboard (it could be neighboring 5 white keys, or any chords), and then release the pressure while keeping the sound on, and then slowly start to rotate the wrist but not loosing the sound.. rotate the wrist in all possible directions


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post Feb 12 2008, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Dejan @ Feb 12 2008, 08:50 AM) *
here's one tip smile.gif

it is very important that your hands are relaxed when playing and there is a good exercise for that.. press any keys on keyboard (it could be neighboring 5 white keys, or any chords), and then release the pressure while keeping the sound on, and then slowly start to rotate the wrist but not loosing the sound.. rotate the wrist in all possible directions

great tip I tried that today ...great exersise...thanks man....smile.gif


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post Feb 12 2008, 12:22 PM
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Thanks a lot for that tip Dejan, can we have some more please smile.gif


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post Feb 13 2008, 11:04 PM
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You're welcome guys smile.gif

OK here's the next one biggrin.gif

When playing, you should move whole arm left or right, and to minimize movement of the wrist.. and also when hitting keys with fingers, all action shall be in fingers, rising fingers prior to hit, and the top of the hand shall be still.. you can put a coin on top of the hand and take care not to fall down while playing.


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post Feb 13 2008, 11:23 PM
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Those are great advices Dejan thanks a lot man! smile.gif Now I know how to practice more in the right way. Very much appreciate the help! smile.gif

PS Do you play the keys Dejan?


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post Feb 13 2008, 11:45 PM
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You're welcome Ivan smile.gif

I play a bit, still learning. It started just to support composing but I started to like to play piano a lot and got addicted biggrin.gif

I have a M-Audio Keystation 61es MIDI keyboard and currently trying to learn to use sustain pedal unsure.gif and I play mainly classical pieces smile.gif


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post Feb 14 2008, 01:27 AM
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great Dejan...some video rispsonse woud be great too...if you can showe us the basics..and the important stuff how to begin...or how to warm up your hands before playing...


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post Feb 14 2008, 02:15 AM
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Cool man. Thanks again. If you remember anything important that I should know as a total beginner with keys please post!

Good luck on practicing those keys.


P.S. Congrats on your keystation, M Audio is a cool brand. I've bought something similar recently from them so I want to share enthusiasm. smile.gif Keep rockin! smile.gif

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post Feb 14 2008, 02:20 AM
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I play Piano a bit. Played for 7 years between 5 and 12.


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post Feb 14 2008, 02:24 AM
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It would be so great if GMC had some piano lessons. I really want to learn but I don't know how. Dejan, thanks for the tips! smile.gif

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post Feb 14 2008, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (jeff @ Feb 14 2008, 02:24 AM) *
It would be so great if GMC had some piano lessons. I really want to learn but I don't know how. Dejan, thanks for the tips! smile.gif

yeh there must be some one(of GMC istructors) who can do just one or two lessons per month...basic stuff.....I can see that Dejan is clouse to the subject....


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QUOTE (Nemanja @ Feb 13 2008, 08:30 PM) *
yeh there must be some one(of GMC istructors) who can do just one or two lessons per month...basic stuff.....I can see that Dejan is clouse to the subject....


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QUOTE (jammer91 @ Feb 11 2008, 11:52 AM) *
Hi GMCers,
I started guitar around 1 and a half years ago and around the same time my sister bought herself a keyboard. We both took lessons in some institutes and hated it cause they made us play classical songs out of some books. So we decided to quit.


As I'm sure you already know, most good teachers will start you out playing some easy tunes when first teaching. Some classical pieces are just real easy and cover what a beginner should be learning, this way you not only get the music theory, finger placement(guitar and keyboard/piano) as well as the basic note and chord sounds. Minuet in G comes readily to mind as one of these pieces.

Learning from a site like GMC or another will probably give you a good bag of licks and tricks but IMHO it won't make you a complete musician who can listen to a song and then play it or one who can transcribe what they are listening to and even write their own music. IMHO a complete musician can do all of these things and more and I feel the only way to get those skills is by either taking lessons( long expensive approach) or by going to a good music school(best way). I know if I had it to do all over again, I would have stuck to the lessons I was being taught when I was a kid and then went on to a school like Berklee College of Music.


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QUOTE (RobM @ Feb 14 2008, 11:59 AM) *
As I'm sure you already know, most good teachers will start you out playing some easy tunes when first teaching. Some classical pieces are just real easy and cover what a beginner should be learning, this way you not only get the music theory, finger placement(guitar and keyboard/piano) as well as the basic note and chord sounds. Minuet in G comes readily to mind as one of these pieces.

Learning from a site like GMC or another will probably give you a good bag of licks and tricks but IMHO it won't make you a complete musician who can listen to a song and then play it or one who can transcribe what they are listening to and even write their own music. IMHO a complete musician can do all of these things and more and I feel the only way to get those skills is by either taking lessons( long expensive approach) or by going to a good music school(best way). I know if I had it to do all over again, I would have stuck to the lessons I was being taught when I was a kid and then went on to a school like Berklee College of Music.

Probably right about this, but for me I just want to learn a few things. I don't need to be the next Stevie Wonder. I just want a few basic things and a few GMC piano lessons would be perfect for me. smile.gif
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