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Marcus Lavendell
post Feb 19 2008, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (USAMAN @ Feb 19 2008, 02:57 AM) *
I did it to an old neck i wasnt using. I highly suggest practicing on a pile of junk...you may turn it into a jewel

I agree 100%. That's a very good advise


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post Feb 19 2008, 09:28 AM
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That looks great!
Going to try this on a old beaten up Kaman GTX i got lying around smile.gif


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post Feb 19 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Feb 19 2008, 09:28 AM) *
That looks great!
Going to try this on a old beaten up Kaman GTX i got lying around smile.gif

Cool! smile.gif
Will you try to break USAMAN's record? 21 frets in 4 hours biggrin.gif


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post Feb 19 2008, 10:13 AM
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I go a new neck (allparts) scalloped.

I actually like the feeling, and yea vibrato's to become easier.

Just had to get used to the neck, but that does not take very long, a day or two. I mean if you have been playing giutar for a while, its just like shifting to diffrent neck profile thats it. Atleast imo.

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post Feb 19 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (lavendell @ Feb 19 2008, 10:04 AM) *
Cool! smile.gif
Will you try to break USAMAN's record? 21 frets in 4 hours biggrin.gif


I will definetly break something while doing this, and it will most likely not the be record smile.gif


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post Feb 19 2008, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Feb 19 2008, 10:23 AM) *
I will definetly break something while doing this, and it will most likely not the be record smile.gif

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Well, I wish you good luck smile.gif


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QUOTE (lavendell @ Feb 19 2008, 11:05 AM) *
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Well, I wish you good luck smile.gif


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post Feb 19 2008, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (USAMAN @ Feb 19 2008, 12:11 AM) *
neck reprofile:
a nasty looking rasp with big teeth. Tore it down in no time.
sanded it out in progressive steps.

So, with the neck part, have you noticed the neck being weaker or that you had to adjust the truss rod or something like that?
I'm asking because I've been thinking of doing this to my Revenger.

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post Feb 19 2008, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Feb 19 2008, 01:54 PM) *
So, with the neck part, have you noticed the neck being weaker or that you had to adjust the truss rod or something like that?
I'm asking because I've been thinking of doing this to my Revenger.

I had to do a truss rod adjustment. I took half the thickness out of the neck and I kinda expected it. Truss rod adjustments are nothing magical though (very easy actually). Weaker...nope havent noticed anything out of the ordinary. I did see a neck on ebay one time where the dude recontoured the back of the neck and went through to the truss rod. I would suggest that you are very careful if you plan on changing the back of the neck.


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post Feb 27 2008, 11:43 PM
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Ok,

I've had some time to tweak my scalloped neck (the back contour). This is my first experience with a scalloped neck.
I've spent some time playing it and here is my take on it.

To start with, performing the scallop job was pretty simple. I have worked with tools (not woodworking) all my life. This may or may not need to get factored into my assessment that its easy. I just kinda jumped in and performed the surgery with a minimal of tools and as much patients as I could muster at 4:00Am. Four hours later I had a scalloped neck in my hands. Still need to apply a finish to the wood ( its kinda nice unfinished though smile.gif
Its maple and you need to be careful with maple necks. The wood is a bit prone to warping without a hard finish.

Second I took a rasp and destroyed...i mean removed a major portion of the back of the neck. I tried to flatten it out on the back similar to my s prestige neck. Its not quite as thin but im becoming increasingly conserned that the truss rod is near. The original contour was a bit of a "v" shape and really fat (picture a baseball bat sawed in half). I have not noticed any instability at all in the neck. I performed a slight truss rod adjustment and its nice and straight, no buzz plays great.

Playing.... at first it felt really wierd and I didnt like it at all. After spending a couple hours going over some of Mr lavendell's amazing compositions (seemed only fitting) It started feeling better (less goofy). Bending notes is definately different. You can get a mighty grip on the strings, however sliding up the neck is going to take some getting use to. Its a fairly bumpy ride....I hope that makes sense as im not sure how else to explain it. I have some serious jumbo frets. The biggest concern that I have heard people voice is that playing chords is tough....not so..its pretty much the same as with a normal neck. Also a concern that I had was that pushing on the strings to hard would make the notes go sharp. Good luck, the distance between frets and the tension of the strings makes this pretty much a non issue. You would have to be trying to intentionally do it IMHO. All in all its a fun toy for me right now. Im sure that it wont just collect dust because it is fun to play, however nothing I have found yet will replace my s 2170 prestige or my Les Paul and Im not taking the files to those.

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post Feb 28 2008, 08:34 AM
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Thanks for sharing Patrick! smile.gif

It'll take some time to get used to it. Eventually you might even love it! biggrin.gif
i'm still amazed that you only spent 4 hours on the scallop. Good job!


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post Mar 2 2008, 05:03 PM
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man. i accedentily was touching the frets, feels weird and kind of bumpy when i bend


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post Mar 2 2008, 05:37 PM
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Thanks man! Sounds like you did a really fine job!

I was planning on doing this to a project guitar soon, and it's nice to hear of somebody else's experience before I dive in (not to make you into a guinea pig wink.gif )


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post Mar 2 2008, 11:06 PM
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finished the scallop of my strat today biggrin.gif it took me about 6 hours and I must say that I'm very pleased over the results. It's not the same guitar anymore! ohmy.gif
I was worried that it would feel awkward to play, but it didn´t, I actually think it's easier to play now tongue.gif The bends are so much easier, the pinch harmonics sounds so much better and marcus lessons are a bit easier to play smile.gif
win/win situation biggrin.gif

Ill post some pics in a few days.

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post Mar 3 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (g-forcelover @ Mar 2 2008, 05:03 PM) *
man. i accedentily was touching the frets, feels weird and kind of bumpy when i bend

- Not good! That's exactly what you should avoid! sad.gif
It's always best to take your time, and first practice scalloping on a neck that you don't use so you can learn from mistakes like this.

Don't know if you can fix the broken frets, but try with fine sand paper.


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post Mar 3 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Patrik Jezierski @ Mar 2 2008, 11:06 PM) *
finished the scallop of my strat today biggrin.gif it took me about 6 hours and I must say that I'm very pleased over the results. It's not the same guitar anymore! ohmy.gif
I was worried that it would feel awkward to play, but it didn´t, I actually think it's easier to play now tongue.gif The bends are so much easier, the pinch harmonics sounds so much better and marcus lessons are a bit easier to play smile.gif
win/win situation biggrin.gif

Ill post some pics in a few days.

Cool! smile.gif

Can't wait to see those pics smile.gif


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post Mar 3 2008, 11:47 AM
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Well heres some pictures, as promised. smile.gif
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post Mar 3 2008, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (Patrik Jezierski @ Mar 3 2008, 11:47 AM) *
Well heres some pictures, as promised. smile.gif

Wow! You went pretty deep there! Looks beautiful!!
Great work Patrik! biggrin.gif


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That looks really cool. smile.gif Good job.


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Yeah, Patrick, yours looks gorgeous!


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