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post Feb 17 2008, 12:36 PM
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I've seen this brought up in a lot of debates, and once or twice in posts in your 'ask an instructor' forum. Alternate Picking vs Economy Picking. I'm not here to ask which is better or worse. In my opinion, both useful tools. I use a bit of both. I never APed before I joined this forum, but now that I've practiced it, I find a lot of songs easier to play. At the same time, I found myself using economy picking before I even knew what it was.

Now, I find myself switching between the two, for some reason just certain things feel more natural in either fashion. Even within the same lessons. I guess that isn't a surprise since there isn't really any significant differences. For instance, on your Alternate Picking-Thirds lesson [Good lesson] I find that for the first part you tabbed out, my hands naturally find themselves economy picking. Down/Up/Down/Down/Up so on and so forth. Then the second part you tabbed out, my hands go into AP mode. Don't know why this is, but it happens, but it feels fluid. Is this something I should really worry about? Should I try to strictly adhere to one or the other?

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post Feb 17 2008, 01:02 PM
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Thanks for edit Kris,I noticed odd title as well. smile.gif

So,alternate Vs. Economy once more. biggrin.gif

It's really matter of taste and lick.
Alternate has more power while economy is more like "legato" picking,
staccato is pretty hard to get when you play economy btw.

Since Alternate Picking-Thirds lesson's title says all,
I would suggest to go with Alternate.
But it's good way to play few licks from it with Economy why not.

Use them both,but be wise. smile.gif


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post Feb 17 2008, 02:44 PM
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Muris is right. But make sure you learn to speedpick though. i started out with ecomomy, and now i have to go back and learn to pick everything, which i got extremely good with economy. but learn to sped pick, and you can do what ever you need to.


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post Feb 17 2008, 02:51 PM
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Now is time for me to ask a question. smile.gif
Can you explain it to me,what is speed picking?


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post Apr 2 2008, 07:58 PM
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Yeah that was something I was wondering about aswell?! What is speedpicking? If its not the same as AP?
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post Apr 2 2008, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE (Hammerfest @ Apr 2 2008, 08:58 PM) *
Yeah that was something I was wondering about aswell?! What is speedpicking? If its not the same as AP?


I guess it's alternate picking,but speed version. biggrin.gif

Guys,an explanation of what speed picking is? rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 3 2008, 12:25 AM
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Speed picking or economy picking is a technique where you combine alternate picking and sweeping , that means that when you are changing strings your going to use the stroke in that same direction. for example if you are in the A string and you are going to the d string you are going to use a downstroke , no matter if you just used a down stroke on the A string. Becuase of my bad english here is an example:




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post Apr 3 2008, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Apr 2 2008, 11:47 PM) *
I guess it's alternate picking,but speed version. biggrin.gif

Guys,an explanation of what speed picking is? rolleyes.gif

see extreme neo-classic lesson......you know .......in that one part when you went kinda fast................lol


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post Apr 3 2008, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE (coffeeman @ Apr 3 2008, 01:25 AM) *
Speed picking or economy picking is a technique where you combine alternate picking and sweeping , that means that when you are changing strings your going to use the stroke in that same direction. for example if you are in the A string and you are going to the d string you are going to use a downstroke , no matter if you just used a down stroke on the A string. Becuase of my bad english here is an example:




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Hmm...so you say economy picking is speed picking? huh.gif
I know Gambale has instructional DVD named "Speed Picking",he plays picking there,fast,economy indeed.
But I'm not 100% sure if economy is just another name for speed picking.

I thought it's picking playing fast,alternate mostly.
We know what speed is...we know what picking is.
I don't see the reason to connect is only to economy picking.

Maybe it's just terminology mixed up. smile.gif


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post Apr 3 2008, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Apr 2 2008, 08:14 PM) *
Hmm...so you say economy picking is speed picking? huh.gif
I know Gambale has instructional DVD named "Speed Picking",he plays picking there,fast,economy indeed.
But I'm not 100% sure if economy is just another name for speed picking.

I thought it's picking playing fast,alternate mostly.
We know what speed is...we know what picking is.
I don't see the reason to connect is only to economy picking.

Maybe it's just terminology mixed up. smile.gif


Yeap I took the term speed picking from the Frank Gambale DVD , you are right, what I explained is economy picking, speed picking is just picking fast.


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post Apr 3 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (coffeeman @ Apr 3 2008, 04:35 AM) *
Yeap I took the term speed picking from the Frank Gambale DVD , you are right, what I explained is economy picking, speed picking is just picking fast.


Ahh,ok,thanks for clearing it up! smile.gif


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post Apr 3 2008, 12:20 PM
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well you need alternate to be able to do economy - I would say practice both.... They are both essential techniques for any modern guitarist IMO

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QUOTE (Nick Kellie @ Apr 3 2008, 01:20 PM) *
well you need alternate to be able to do economy - I would say practice both.... They are both essential techniques for any modern guitarist IMO

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Absolutely,you must practice both,thanks for input Nick. smile.gif

We was just wondering what speed picking is in a first place,
think we've got it now tho. wink.gif


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Practicing both equally well is very important indeed. It builds the sound and decreases the weak spots while playing. For example every possible combination played in with the picking hand playing both alternate and economy while transferring strings is essential.


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I do slowpicking and slowlos


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