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Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 02:29 AM
Feb 19 2008, 02:29 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	Well, heres my problem. I've been practicing alternate picking quite a bit lately and I've run into a problem. I can move my fingers as fast as they can move using legato so thats pretty quick, but when I alternate pick the same pattern my picking seems to slow me down, so I can pick as fast as I can with alternate picking (Across the strings) but probably half as fast as my fingers can go. Is this curable with practice or am I just a loser who cant pick that fast? tj You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

Stevie-Ray-Vaugh... Stevie-Ray-Vaughn View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 02:30 AM
Feb 19 2008, 02:30 AM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 1.119 Joined: 23-December 06 From: Canada!	Im in the same problem, you just have to practise more synchronization between your left and right hands You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- But still I want answers, what's the point, what does all this mean?

UncleSkillet View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 03:52 AM
Feb 19 2008, 03:52 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 1.525 Joined: 21-January 08 From: Cincinnati, Ohio	Dude your not a loser who can't pick. You got some chops. It's a technique you just need to practice. I would say most people pick up Legato quicker because your left hand gets strong and wants to take over. Plus you want to play some things fast so you work with that. Nothing wrong with it. Legato sounds cool. I know you like Satch. Just relax your hand, don't grab the pick to hard, pick a pattern working with 2 strings, close your eyes and go. You’re not alone. I have to force myself to alternate pick sometimes as well because it is so easy to just want to pull off, hammer and repeat. By the way, nice new Avatar. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "Think of a guitar solo as a paragraph. You need a clear beginning, a middle, and an end. Look at musical phrases like sentences, and make sure you break them up using punctuation—or space. You pause naturally when conversing, right? If you don't, you'll bore the listener. The same thing will happen with your audience if your solo is one dimensional. You'll wear them out and lose their attention." —Tom Principato

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 05:18 AM
Feb 19 2008, 05:18 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	Hah, friend was over today.. some funny pictures he took . I look semi retarted in that picture. Thanks for the words man. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Tjchep: Feb 19 2008, 05:22 AM -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

mattacuk View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 10:39 AM
Feb 19 2008, 10:39 AM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	Hi TJ, Ok first off, you DONT suck I can promise you. One of the core teachings I learnt of kris is that control is the name when it comes to alternate picking, and not speed. ( Or control first speed later ) What you need to do is spend many hours practicing these runs / licks to a metronome at a slow pace. Soon, you will notice your hands syncronise correctly, you actually feel In control of what your doing and it will sound clean - then speed comes naturally. When you see instcutors playing fast but CLEAN runs you know they have spent many many hours practicing slowly before they got as fast and clean as they are today. I myelf have been practicing runs slowly for many months on end, today I really feel in control of what im doing Why not pick an alternate picking lesson from the archive and start your practice session of with that? Linear runs are a great place to start (although they can get boring). You can always mix one of these exercises up with something more fun too I hope this info helps even just a little, remember the key to success is time, control and patience ! Good luck You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 06:23 PM
Feb 19 2008, 06:23 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	I never play faster than I can clean. And I feel I have full control over the lick's that I have burned into my fingers. But Its just when I try to pick up speed, the one that I can never get up to my fingers speed is my right hand. So It looks like I'm off to practice . And I never ment it harsh to my self that I'm a loser who cant pick, a smile would have been appropriate there . You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Tjchep: Feb 19 2008, 06:26 PM -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

DeepRoots View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 06:45 PM
Feb 19 2008, 06:45 PM	Get to da Chopper! Posts: 2.700 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK	have you tried practising to a metronome? It may seem like sow progress but increasing the metronome by 1bpm a day will give you a 7bpm increase over a week, 30bpm a month, 365 bpm a year ?!?!?!?! doesnt seem like such slow progress anymore You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 07:05 PM
Feb 19 2008, 07:05 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	Beep, Beep, Beep. Nah, never gave it a good chance. Mabye I should. Say I'm working on Speed bursts, what do you think I should start it at? 40 bpm? Cause it has 16th notes and 16th note triplets. Thats 4 notes perbeat and 6 so 40 does sound like a reasonable starting place right? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 10:11 PM
Feb 19 2008, 10:11 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	The problem is not in you left hand, but in your right. You must focus more on the right hand while practicing. For example stop watching the left hand and start looking at the right one all the time during practice and concentrate to do the right moves. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

mattacuk View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 10:17 PM
Feb 19 2008, 10:17 PM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 19 2008, 06:05 PM) Beep, Beep, Beep. Nah, never gave it a good chance. Mabye I should. Say I'm working on Speed bursts, what do you think I should start it at? 40 bpm? Cause it has 16th notes and 16th note triplets. Thats 4 notes perbeat and 6 so 40 does sound like a reasonable starting place right? Ahh well, the metronome IS your key to success - You may benifit from listening to kris's words about the metronome on his 101 vids. Everyday I turn my metronome on and practice for many hours, it allows you to learn good timeing / keeping the beat, control, and of course eventually speed. Dial in as low a bpm as you need, then work up slowly P.S, Check out this video of Kris and his student, it explains how to approach learning correctly !! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by mattacuk: Feb 19 2008, 10:30 PM -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Feb 19 2008, 10:49 PM
Feb 19 2008, 10:49 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 19 2008, 07:05 PM) Beep, Beep, Beep. Nah, never gave it a good chance. Mabye I should. Say I'm working on Speed bursts, what do you think I should start it at? 40 bpm? Cause it has 16th notes and 16th note triplets. Thats 4 notes perbeat and 6 so 40 does sound like a reasonable starting place right? Wow, didn't see that If you wanna play the guitar you have to use a metronome! It goes without saying. Just start off from Kirs's lessons about metronome, or search the word metronome tips on the forum, you can find a lot of tips how to practice. CHeers man! w You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 20 2008, 04:12 AM
Feb 20 2008, 04:12 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	I understand that I need to.. I haven't really been playing, or for that matter soloing for that long. So I'm recently, (past 2 months) Been trying to get into to "shredding" as you would call it. So I guess ill go and get a metronome.. Can't wait for that, but I'm sure I will drastic improvements in my playing and technical abilities. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Tjchep: Feb 20 2008, 04:13 AM -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

SLASH91 View Member Profile	Feb 20 2008, 04:17 AM
Feb 20 2008, 04:17 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.259 Joined: 6-June 07 From: Louisiana	QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 19 2008, 12:05 PM) Beep, Beep, Beep. Nah, never gave it a good chance. Mabye I should. Say I'm working on Speed bursts, what do you think I should start it at? 40 bpm? Cause it has 16th notes and 16th note triplets. Thats 4 notes perbeat and 6 so 40 does sound like a reasonable starting place right? Yup, like everyone else already said, you will never get to shred speeds (180 bpm+ ) with your AP if you don't use a metronome. I know it's incredibly boring, but it's one of those necessary evils. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "Remember to live, eat, sleep and breathe music for the mind, play from your heart and never be swayed by the current trends"- Rusty Cooley My gear: Marshall Valvstate Digitech Distortion Factory Jackson RR24 (Randy Rhoads) Ibanez RG2550e A ripoff brand acoustic guitar and a Yamaha Classical guitar :)

Batista View Member Profile	Feb 20 2008, 11:10 PM
Feb 20 2008, 11:10 PM	GMC:er Posts: 213 Joined: 13-July 07 From: Sandefjord, Norway	Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I have a question about this - or, it's the exact opposite of this actually. I don't have any problems with my right hand speed, but my left hand is way too slow, when I'm not using legato. Is it suggested for me to use the same methods as the thread starter? I can get speed up with legato, but when I'm using alternate picking all the way my right hand goes way faster. Again, sorry for hijacking the thread, but I found it better than to start a new one about the almost same subject. Cheers, Batista You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Seven Deadly Sins, One Deadly Syn Gear list: Gibson Les Paul Studio Alpine White Schecter Damien-6 Vox AD30VT Boss DS-1 Boss MT-2

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 02:36 AM
Feb 21 2008, 02:36 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	Well, you just have to sit with a metronome at really slow speeds and make sure you hit every note, not missing one or anything, hitting every single note. sounds like your right and left hands are not synced up correctly. But, heres a question, when ever I practice to a metronome at a comfortable speed, my pick always moves after like 2 minutes and I always have to fix it. Is there something up with my pick grip? Or should I hold it tighter, or try out other picks? Using Jazz III btw. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Tjchep: Feb 21 2008, 02:37 AM -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 04:32 AM
Feb 21 2008, 04:32 AM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	I'm fixing the pick all the time,nothing wrong there. Let's say you have 3 bars of 32th notes,one 8th notes and then more 32th. Use that 8th note to fix the pick,just an example. Actually,try to move your pick around a bit while playing slower lines, it'll give better fell of pick and some cool sound variations. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Tjchep View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 05:34 AM
Feb 21 2008, 05:34 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.084 Joined: 16-October 07 From: United States, CT	Ok. I usually do fix it when playing the slower parts, but just making sure my pick grip isnt messed up or something. Thanks for the words . tj You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my playing here - https://www.youtube.com/user/tjchep

mattacuk View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 10:15 AM
Feb 21 2008, 10:15 AM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	QUOTE (Batista @ Feb 20 2008, 10:10 PM) Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I have a question about this - or, it's the exact opposite of this actually. I don't have any problems with my right hand speed, but my left hand is way too slow, when I'm not using legato. Is it suggested for me to use the same methods as the thread starter? I can get speed up with legato, but when I'm using alternate picking all the way my right hand goes way faster. Again, sorry for hijacking the thread, but I found it better than to start a new one about the almost same subject. Cheers, Batista Yes aboslutley. Members often say one of there hands is not in sync with the other The point is, it dosent matter which hand is faster or slower, that person needs to practice plenty of alternate picking exercises slowly under a metronome, pushing foward when you feel you have control at that level The brain then learns this new habit (correctly)and you start to build solid technique. I will spend quite literally MONTHS and months on one exercise, lick or technique under the metronome If you practicing the correct way, even if it seems slow your reaching your goal FASTER You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

mattacuk View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM
Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 21 2008, 01:36 AM) Well, you just have to sit with a metronome at really slow speeds and make sure you hit every note, not missing one or anything, hitting every single note. sounds like your right and left hands are not synced up correctly. But, heres a question, when ever I practice to a metronome at a comfortable speed, my pick always moves after like 2 minutes and I always have to fix it. Is there something up with my pick grip? Or should I hold it tighter, or try out other picks? Using Jazz III btw. I use a Dunlop 1 mm nylon with a grip, it really helps! Alot of pics slide around in your hand easy, especially when you have sweaty hands You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

Batista View Member Profile	Feb 21 2008, 11:41 AM
Feb 21 2008, 11:41 AM	GMC:er Posts: 213 Joined: 13-July 07 From: Sandefjord, Norway	Thanks to Mattacuk and Tjchep for the answers on my question You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Seven Deadly Sins, One Deadly Syn Gear list: Gibson Les Paul Studio Alpine White Schecter Damien-6 Vox AD30VT Boss DS-1 Boss MT-2

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