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post Feb 24 2008, 11:56 PM
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First of all the restringing lesson is just great. I learned a lot from it and it is very well done. But I read somewhere, probably on the net when I was getting information regarding restringing, that you should not remove all the strings at once. Something about removing all the tension on the neck and then putting it right back on will do damage ....blah blah. If you do it one string at a time it makes it hard to clean the body and fret board so I have done it both ways. Have you ever heard of this? It just sounds crazy to me....one string at a time I mean.


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post Feb 26 2008, 01:04 AM
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Hi man, thanks I'm glad you liked it!

You can do both ways really. You can't damage the neck by taking of all the strings at once. The neck is not that brake-able. I prefer to take of all my strings because, as you say, you can then clean the fretboard more easily. Of course the neck does gets straighter because there is no tension, but after you put the string on, in some time (depending on the wood and construction off course) the neck is returned in its tensed up position. With mine guitar it takes about 24 hours to get to default position.


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post Apr 7 2008, 06:49 AM
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yeah thats great lesson i'm heard same stuff about not do that {take all of them out} actualy i'm probaly not techician type..i'm was try today change all my string 1 to 1 and i'm never happy with my style specialy i'm have trouble to made good finish when i'm puting those string to tuning pegs unsure.gif actualy i'm trying to do something like little knob{picture from Esp Book}[attachment=6368:234941.jpg]


but the problem everythime when i'm change string is biger..after changing all string i'v have usualy lot of buzzing around..actualy i'm did try first time to do some adjustmet by my self with trying to work on that neck bow and i'm have to say thats help and almost all buzzing os of..looks like thats on better shape like before but i'm not sure with the distance betwen string and frets now..looks to big..and anyway i'm wanna again probaly tomorow restring all quitar to be more happy

why you thing i'm have Buzz all time when i'm try to change string are this my bad technique??? or cheap material on my quitar??? or something else

so when you restring your quitar and the quitar come back after for example 24h to basic position you don't need to do usualy any adjustment of neck or bridge???

thanks Ivan..Rene

Ps--actualy i'm know i'm not profesional and maybe be better to take the quitar to the technician guy..but couple more adjustment from them and i'm give them more money like my quitar cost laugh.gif so i'm thing is good time lear couple stuff now on 200$ quitar if i'm wanna buy later some more expensive wink.gif

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post Apr 8 2008, 01:20 AM
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I didn't quite understand everything man, but I think it is safe to say that you can do all strings at once. It will not damage the neck in any way. The neck is not a fixed thing on the other hand. It is a piece of wood and it curves naturally. So some time is needed in order to settle in with tension from new strings. There is no "standard" time, and it depends on many factor. On my guitar it's around 24 hours.


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post Apr 8 2008, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Apr 7 2008, 08:20 PM) *
I didn't quite understand everything man, but I think it is safe to say that you can do all strings at once. It will not damage the neck in any way. The neck is not a fixed thing on the other hand. It is a piece of wood and it curves naturally. So some time is needed in order to settle in with tension from new strings. There is no "standard" time, and it depends on many factor. On my guitar it's around 24 hours.



i'm got a new string and i'm gonna restring the quitar again..actualy ok i'm gonna take all of them down.
actualy what i'm trying to explain my last reply is problem what i'm have everytime when i'm restring the quitar..the string is buzzing too mutch..so i'm dont know why
if the problem is me .... or maybe bad and cheap neck or something else
maybe like you say..i'm have to wait until next day to decide if the neck is ok

but what is important probaly before i'm put new set of string on my esp is have the neck on good bow position
on esp manual they recomendet this->

Checking Neck Bow
Correct truss rod adjustment is determined by the amount of bow or relief that is in the neck. To check neck bow, hold your guitar in playing position and check the low E and high E strings using the following method (Figure 7). With your fretting hand, hold down the string at the first fret. Now with your picking hand thumb, fret the same string at the area where the neck joins the body (around 16th fret). While holding both sections of the string in place, stretch your index finger of your picking hand as far as possible into the middle area of the neck (frets 7-9) and tap the string down to the frets. The amount of distance that the string is travelling to reach the frets is the amount of bow that is in the neck (you may also use feeler gauges to measure this distance, but it’s not necessary). It is desirable to have a slight amount of bow, but not too much. About .3 mm - .5 mm (.010” - .020”) is usually plenty of bow. Having too much bow will cause excessive buzzing in the center area of the neck and will cause the strings to be farther


it's there some more easy way to check rolleyes.gif it???

actualy i'm wana be sure before i'm put those new set of string{the neck is in good position} not underbow or backbow

actauly here is all manual for esp quitar
http://www.espguitars.com/ESP_Owners_Manual.pdf

i'm just wana try to do the adjustment by my self..becouse is nor realy fun to take the quitar to technician guy every each changing of string..becouse there will be like 3 adjustment and i'm give them almost more money like is price for the quitar rolleyes.gif

if i'm understant this good when i'm be sure about my neck position and i'm will be have still buzzing then probaly i'm have to work on bridge put the bridge up or down?? right.

soryy for beginer question..actualy if you don't got me..don't worry thats not your fault but my english
Thanks Ivan anyway for previous respond wink.gif


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post Apr 8 2008, 05:42 AM
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ok i'm find other way how to check neck position wink.gif i'm restrin all string and have lot of buzz now but i'm gonna wait to tomorow a then will see what to do next rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 8 2008, 05:01 PM
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Hi, kahall. With floating bridge (floyd-rose) it is possible to restring all at once if you place something to stop the bridge from going all the way down.

But it is waaaay simpler to do it one string at a time.
People who use floyd-rose will likely give the advice to do it one at a time. But for fixed bridge just do the way you like it. wink.gif


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post Apr 10 2008, 07:17 PM
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I agree, if you feel that doing one string at a time is more comfortable and better, by all means do it. It is my advice to do as you think it is best.


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