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Mar 3 2008, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Mar 3 2008, 01:27 AM)  About 4 months ago in November or whatever I decided I was going to learn new styles, and I made a practice schedule. While I got into classical music and jazz and neoclassical, etc, and began working on those styles. Then I listen to Dream Theater, they didn't have a real impact on me at first. However something about Under a Glass Moon really got my attention then I went into an all out Dream Theater addiction, all I do is practice Rock Discipline exercises and Dream Theater songs all day. I have a classical guitar, jazz guitar books, blues guitar books, and GMC to help me with my styles, but for some reason, after getting addicted to Dream Theater. EVERYTHING else all a sudden just becomes OK, and it really can't hold my attention because I am so used to Dream Theater, so ultimately I just go back to them. Anyway, I really need to start practicing other things like I used to, but those "other" things all just seem so inferior to Dream Theater. I tried to listen to John Petrucci's biggest influences (Rush, Yes, Steve Morse, SRV, etc) but I just can't listen or analyze them long enough because I just get sucked back to Dream Theater. I seriously have been listening to them for like 2 months now and if I can't listen to them, I would probably go insane. I already spent $300 on the VIP Dream Theater package because they are coming to Atlanta and if I didn't I would probably die. I know this thread seems really stupid, but I really need some way to get away from Dream Theater and learn other things!!!! Well, for me this thread is not stupid... because... it's something happened also to me.  I can tell you from my experience that when you will grow up as guitar player, maybe you will find other artists interesting too. Just an example: John Petrucci is a great guitar player, of course. If you like Jazz music, you will discover some other guitar players that are better than him for improvising. -------------------- ::: Main Gear ::: Guitars: Washburn N4 Vintage | Washburn N2 | Washburn WI67Pro | Washburn WG-587 | Washburn EA20B Amps: Laney GH50L (head) | Laney GS410 & GS212IE (cabinets) | Rocktron PROGAP Ultra (rack preamp) | Rocktron Velocity 150 (power amp) | Marshall VS230 (combo) FXs: Rocktron Intellifex + custom pedalboard (check my video demo) Other: Shredneck | Intellitouch PT10 tuner Picks: Esseti Picks Software & Recording Gear: Cubase 4 | Overloud TH1 | Mackie Onyx 400F | EZdrummer | Korg Pandora PX4D ------------------------------------------------------- myspace.com/jerryarcidiacono Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Mar 3 2008, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Mar 3 2008, 01:55 AM) Yea I have tried to listen to guys like Wes Montgomery or Al Di Meola but I just get sucked back to John Petrucci because he is like EVERYTHING I could ever imagine all in one. Wes Montgomery plays great jazz, but thats it. John Petrucci does that, and country, and shred, and rock, and blues, and classical, and all that is like a fraction of his ability. I almost just don't see the need to listen to anyone else and it is like total addiction because I know there are other good guitarists out there but I just can't get away from Dream Theater long enough to get into their stuff, I already know who they are, just can't analyze them. Very good point. Starting from here, we'll going to consider our personal tastes. For me John is a great reference for progressive riffs, solos and so on. Steve Vai is the genious, especially for the incredible compositions he done. Nuno is the one who fits better my idea of funk-metal-rock guitar, etc... Back to the topic, if you could organise a jam with John Petrucci and Wes Montgomery as lead players - jazz context - maybe you'll find the Wes' solo more appropriate. -------------------- ::: Main Gear ::: Guitars: Washburn N4 Vintage | Washburn N2 | Washburn WI67Pro | Washburn WG-587 | Washburn EA20B Amps: Laney GH50L (head) | Laney GS410 & GS212IE (cabinets) | Rocktron PROGAP Ultra (rack preamp) | Rocktron Velocity 150 (power amp) | Marshall VS230 (combo) FXs: Rocktron Intellifex + custom pedalboard (check my video demo) Other: Shredneck | Intellitouch PT10 tuner Picks: Esseti Picks Software & Recording Gear: Cubase 4 | Overloud TH1 | Mackie Onyx 400F | EZdrummer | Korg Pandora PX4D ------------------------------------------------------- myspace.com/jerryarcidiacono Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Mar 3 2008, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE (Tuubsu @ Mar 3 2008, 02:20 AM) Well I would bet, that eventually you would give Dream Theatre a rest. I don't know anything about Dream theater, but If you want to get into some other stuff... If you haven't tried, try checking out those legends you hear everywhere like, Steve Vai, Marty Friedman, Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Jimi Hendrix, Yngwie Malmsteen, Vinnie Moore, Eddie Van Halen...etc.etc. the list goes on and on. Just open Youtube and search these dudes and others one by one, I would bet you would find something equivalent to Dream theater.  Jimi Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen were my favorites for about a year, then when I heard about Yngwie Malmsteen I got some of his albums and loved his stuff, his stuff got me into Paul Gilbert, which got me into Marty Friedman (who was my all-out favorite for a LONG time), then since Marty was with Jason Becker, they both became my 2 favorites. For Christmas I got Tony MacAlpine and Vinnie Moore CDs and was addicted to them and Vinnie Moore was my favorite for a short time (you can probably find my forum threads that praise him). Then I slowly put Dream Theater into the mix until they started taking all other music away and all my favorites all a sudden just became decent compared to John Petrucci. I have listened to other prog bands, for example, Rush, Yes, Symphony X, King's X, King Crimson, Genesis, etc, and none of them seem to even come close to even touching Dream Theater's status in my mind. Stuff like this makes me wonder what we haven't even seen of John Petrucci. While Steve Vai and Joe Satch are trying very hard, playing at slow to moderate speeds, and still make mistakes, John Petrucci looks like he is about to fall asleep, playing at slow to lightening fast speeds, and making 0 mistakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbNZkX9oto...feature=related --------------------  |
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Mar 3 2008, 02:38 AM
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He is defiantly the most precise player I've ever heard.
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Mar 3 2008, 11:53 AM
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Don't worry about it, you just had a revelation of Dream THeater. My guess is that you will pass that feeling in a year or so for sure. People change with time and learn to liek different stuff. You said it yourself.
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Mar 3 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Mar 3 2008, 01:13 PM) Im sure we're in a bit of a phase- we'll get over it That's the word - phase  Spot on.
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Mar 3 2008, 09:48 PM
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Try Guthrie Govan for a change.
THAT guy plays almost everything, which I can't say for JP,my opinion,not the end of the world tho. Keep looking for different styles,techniques and ways of expression, that's probably the only right way for every musician. -------------------- Youtube
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