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Mar 6 2008, 11:47 PM
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i wouldn't really know cause im 13, but still.
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Mar 6 2008, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 05:47 PM) *
It's been more than 10 mins now and no one has taught me to record an amazing solo yet!!


Here, do it the quick way. Take your stereo, insert Dream Theater's Train Of Thought album. Hook it up to your recorder somehow and play Stream Of Conciousness through the recorder. Finally Rename it "I just owned Petrucci at his own song" and you will be warshipped!

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Mar 6 2008, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Mar 6 2008, 11:50 PM) *
Here, do it the quick way. Take your stereo, insert Dream Theater's Train Of Thought album. Hook it up to your recorder somehow and play Stream Of Conciousness through the recorder. Finally Rename it "I just owned Petrucci at his own song" and you will be warshipped!


Lol what the hell? What do you mean by 'your recorder'? Cuz you know, recorder is also a woodwind musical instrument...

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Mar 6 2008, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 05:52 PM) *
Lol what the hell? What do you mean by 'your recorder'? Cuz you know, recorder is also a woodwind musical instrument...


Not the flute recorder thing. I will reinstate that. Whatever you are recording through. Your recording software or whatever.

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Mar 6 2008, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Mar 6 2008, 11:53 PM) *
Not the flute recorder thing. I will reinstate that. Whatever you are recording through. Your recording software or whatever.


Nah man that sucks. I want to know how to repair mistakes in a guitar recording without a break.

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Mar 6 2008, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Nah man that sucks. I want to know how to repair mistakes in a guitar recording without a break.


Do you mean how to edit a recording?

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Mar 6 2008, 11:57 PM
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Do you mean how to edit a recording?


When you got an almost perfect 4-minute recording with a little mistake in the middle.

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Mar 6 2008, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 05:57 PM) *
When you got an almost perfect 4-minute recording with a little mistake in the middle.


Yeah, so your saying you want to edit that out right?

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Mar 6 2008, 11:59 PM
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Yeah, so your saying you want to edit that out right?


Yeah.

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SinoMan
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We've made this to a pretty active topic BTW. biggrin.gif Too bad I gotta leave soon =/

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Mar 7 2008, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 05:59 PM) *
Yeah.


I dont know much about recording and all that yet. You should ask an instructor who has experience doing that stuff.

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Mar 7 2008, 12:02 AM
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I dont know much about recording and all that yet. You should ask an instructor who has experience doing that stuff.


Well, it's too late. Gonna sleep. See ya.

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Mar 7 2008, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 6 2008, 06:02 PM) *
Well, it's too late. Gonna sleep. See ya.


Later man.

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Mar 7 2008, 12:12 AM
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i still seriously blaime alchohol for the bad stage sound.. the songs everyone rips on are through fire and flames and valley of the damed which are the songs they play last during their shows.. at the beginning everything sounds wicked.. they slowly drink during the show and it gets progressively worse....i think they are all awsome players.. studio albums sound awsome.. but i recommend everyone has 4 to 7 beers and then tries to sweep smile.gif

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Mar 7 2008, 01:27 AM
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Treat alcohol with respect and use it responsibly and no problems will follow

Oh and DRAGONFORCE ROCKS

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Mar 7 2008, 03:03 AM
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They are a good band and make pretty good music. However I think they are extremely overrated. If I remember correctly, the vast majority of Through the Fire and Flames solo is just in standard sets of 4, 4 sets per bar, every bar. Extremely simple solo technically and if you can play 16th notes at 170 BPM or so, the solo isn't that difficult. Dream Theater solos are unbelievably harder though, just try to learn the Constant Motion solo, Metropolis Part 1 solo, The Glass Prison solo among many others to see what a hard solo really is. Hell I think I remember one Dream Theater solo where the time signature changes from 6/8 to 7/8 on every bar. And the scary part is, every member of Dream Theater pulls every song off live, note for note, a feat which I have yet to see Dragonforce even come close to accomplishing. They saturate everything so much with effects it just becomes stupid after a while.

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Mar 7 2008, 03:08 AM
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Comparing Dream Theater to Dragonforce isnt a good idea to me.

I give tons of credit to Dragonforce for being able to write fast, super melodic solos, and being able to play them (Sober, atleast), But its not as "Technical" as DT, Its basic structure, basic arpeggios, tapping licks, just fast usually, Dream Theater, Like you said, can even be a simpler solo or more difficult, and it will change tempo and time signature randomly and more than once.

2 bands that are too different really.

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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Mar 7 2008, 03:08 AM) *
Comparing Dream Theater to Dragonforce isnt a good idea to me.

I give tons of credit to Dragonforce for being able to write fast, super melodic solos, and being able to play them (Sober, atleast), But its not as "Technical" as DT, Its basic structure, basic arpeggios, tapping licks, just fast usually, Dream Theater, Like you said, can even be a simpler solo or more difficult, and it will change tempo and time signature randomly and more than once.

2 bands that are too different really.


Yea I like Dragonforce, all their songs are very uplifting to me (in the studio). The reason I compared to DT though was because I was just pointing out that there are bands out there that are able to pull their own music off live, whereas usually Dragonforce makes like 200 mistakes. I saw one video where Herman Li accidentally hit the volume control pedal instead of wah, so like 4 seconds of the solo was just cut off completely, then he accidentally hits the whammy pedal making the part of the solo that he could play sound 2 octaves higher, overall complete mess, especially when followed by always drunk Totman.

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Mar 7 2008, 03:22 AM
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True, DT are flawless live.

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Mar 7 2008, 04:05 AM
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yeah, if you catch DF RIGHT after a studio release, they're going to play sloppy because they're still learning the song. I've seen DF twice and the second time they nailed each song note for note (it was in february of last year on the No Fear tour or something). The first time I saw them was on the off day from Ozzfest 2 years ago. They flubbed it a little, but not near as bad as the videos. I'm sure lots of skilled guitarists have made mistakes on video before. Petrucci is clearly better than Sam or Herman. Petrucci is probably one of the best rock guitarists alive. That said DF isn't bad. Their stage presence IMHO is better than DT's. They're really high energy and lots of fun.

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