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post Mar 15 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Mar 14 2008, 06:36 PM) *
As much as I am a total metalhead, one could feasibly argue that all metal is just demonic trash with no talent and animal noise vocals - now all of you here know its a little more refined than that:- thats mainstream opinion, truth is that your perception of other genres of music is pretty much what media outlets tell you, unless you yourselves happen to delve deeper and make investigations of your own.

I remember when I first listened to metal, I hated it, but with generally exposure to anything you can get used to it and even come to really enjoy it - you find your niché in a particular area.

Make no mistake, even if you dont think a record is good theres generally always a LOT of talent coming from somewhere inputted into it, most people here could not produce something as good as your average rap or dance record even if they had the kit to do so.


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post Mar 15 2008, 12:09 AM
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We have much to learn from you Owen smile.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 12:13 AM
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AHahahahahahaha I thought we had this discussion when some people started ripping into Avril Lavigne


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post Mar 15 2008, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ Mar 14 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Another big complaint I have is there just doesn't seem to be any guitarists in "popular" music anymore. It seems like the lead guitar has faded out.

John Mayer

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post Mar 15 2008, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Mar 14 2008, 08:58 PM) *
exactly who is "marty fryingpan"? huh.gif


think hes acyually marty friedman

QUOTE (Owen @ Mar 14 2008, 10:36 PM) *
As much as I am a total metalhead, one could feasibly argue that all metal is just demonic trash with no talent and animal noise vocals - now all of you here know its a little more refined than that:- thats mainstream opinion, truth is that your perception of other genres of music is pretty much what media outlets tell you, unless you yourselves happen to delve deeper and make investigations of your own.

I remember when I first listened to metal, I hated it, but with generally exposure to anything you can get used to it and even come to really enjoy it - you find your niché in a particular area.

Make no mistake, even if you dont think a record is good theres generally always a LOT of talent coming from somewhere inputted into it, most people here could not produce something as good as your average rap or dance record even if they had the kit to do so.


some gd points but if your daddy owns the hiltons, you dont need no talent tongue.gif


QUOTE (Hemlok @ Mar 14 2008, 11:13 PM) *
AHahahahahahaha I thought we had this discussion when some people started ripping into Avril Lavigne


lol that wasme again tongue.gif
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post Mar 15 2008, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (Nemanja @ Mar 14 2008, 07:23 PM) *


+1

Not always crazy about John's songs (though he has some really good ones) but he's a great guitar player.


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE (kevin-riff-after-riff @ Mar 14 2008, 05:25 PM) *
some gd points but if your daddy owns the hiltons, you dont need no talent tongue.gif


There's talent involved in hiding the inherent lack of talent laugh.gif biggrin.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 15 2008, 02:30 AM) *
+1

Not always crazy about John's songs (though he has some really good ones) but he's a great guitar player.

what I like about him ..is that I think he figure out how to bring back the blues to the big scene...so I must respect that....

agree with you about the songs...but I enjoy "withing for the world to change"....smile.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE (Capt.Z @ Mar 14 2008, 04:26 PM) *
I hate club music so much. mad.gif I come home from da club
after havin some beers.

arent you 13 years old? blink.gif
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post Mar 15 2008, 02:42 AM
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Ehhh, I've had this argument so many times with some many different people. I may be totally wrong, but perhaps the people who exclusively listen to the popular music are kind of ignorant to some of the other alternates available. When most people hear I like metal music, they say some thing like "So you like Metallica then?" wacko.gif They may just listen to what ever is on the radio or because all their friends are listening to it, even though they may not enjoy it themselves.

The only problem I have with all the "popular" music (besides the fact I don't care for it rolleyes.gif) is that the people who preform it are waaay outclassed by artists like Symphony X, Dream Theater, Vai, Blind Guardian, etc, but these guys and hundreds others never get the mainstream recognition that they deserve. Instead, generally talentless rap artists or the newest pop-punk band get all of the radio play time and various music awards that are better suited for the people who actually deserve to be recognized.


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:55 AM
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QUOTE (Nemanja @ Mar 14 2008, 09:35 PM) *
what I like about him ..is that I think he figure out how to bring back the blues to the big scene...so I must respect that....

agree with you about the songs...but I enjoy "withing for the world to change"....smile.gif


Yeah, I think the whole continuum album is very good. And Try. The main riff on the song try is awesome biggrin.gif I just don't like some of his lyrics when they make him sound like a whiny middle/upper class class guy or when he gets too depressive.. it's like cheer up john, you're a millionaire doing what you love, stop whining about how your BMW won't start (okay bit of an exaggeration, but really I like the guy) tongue.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE (Alucard @ Mar 15 2008, 02:42 AM) *
Ehhh, I've had this argument so many times with some many different people. I may be totally wrong, but perhaps the people who exclusively listen to the popular music are kind of ignorant to some of the other alternates available. When most people hear I like metal music, they say some thing like "So you like Metallica then?" wacko.gif They may just listen to what ever is on the radio or because all their friends are listening to it, even though they may not enjoy it themselves.

The only problem I have with all the "popular" music (besides the fact I don't care for it rolleyes.gif) is that the people who preform it are waaay outclassed by artists like Symphony X, Dream Theater, Vai, Blind Guardian, etc, but these guys and hundreds others never get the mainstream recognition that they deserve. Instead, generally talentless rap artists or the newest pop-punk band get all of the radio play time and various music awards that are better suited for the people who actually deserve to be recognized.

well sad...that first part about metallica is the same in every corner of the world...here too in Serbia....people say "well I don't like Rap,Countr and Metallica music".... blink.gif ....
but never underestimate the power of good old simple 4/4 hit..it is very hard to "hit" the wright atmosphere,and the melody that is as stupid that can be,but drown milions of people to it...for example...there is one very stupid song..calld "Umbrella"..ela...e...e...e....thatis so stupid and simplle line...but top charts.millions of dollars....ars...ars..a...a...smile.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 15 2008, 02:55 AM) *
Yeah, I think the whole continuum album is very good. And Try. The main riff on the song try is awesome biggrin.gif I just don't like some of his lyrics when they make him sound like a whiny middle/upper class class guy or when he gets too depressive.. it's like cheer up john, you're a millionaire doing what you love, stop whining about how your BMW won't start (okay bit of an exaggeration, but really I like the guy) tongue.gif

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post Mar 15 2008, 03:05 AM
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just for this thread.. i present to you.. a techno song.. that my bassist wrote.. in about 10 minutes biggrin.gif I don't mind rap at all.. i can't stand "Gangsta Rap, or UnderGround Rap" I like rap that has a message and tells a story for anyone from the UK i really enjoy " The Streets" and i like stuff by some more reputable rap artists.. this comeing from a complete metalhead. Techno music is the classic rock of today.. all the hippies seem to listen to techno now.. or "electronic music" Its not all bad stuff groups like "Infected Mushroom" and "Daft Punk" are really creating some impressive music dispite the lack of "instrumental talant" It still takes a keen ear to create such intricate melodies and beats. Really all and all music is meant to be listened to and enjoyed and if anyone is doing that over any genre of music then the artists have succeeded.. On the level of Pop Music.. music that is created for the soul purpose of being catchy and making money, dragging in minds that havn't had the time to find their own taste and therefore follow the crowd.. this music i do not like.. i don't mind indie pop artists.. indie music is kinda fun biggrin.gif theres my rant.. listen to the song if you want.. its actually kinda fun to listen to smile.gif

im gunna post this and edit the song in later as im having troubles with it..


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post Mar 15 2008, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Mar 15 2008, 03:05 AM) *
i really enjoy " The Streets"

The Streets are great...I love them too....


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post Mar 15 2008, 03:23 AM
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Popular music in large part seems to be on a global scale, whatever is popular on MTV in the United States. This is not because the music on MTV is particularly good, just that bad music is one of the US's chief exports. It's not just music, but the culture and style associated with it. If you would reflect on what RHCP meant when they coined the term "Californication", you can realize what they are talking about when you put it in this context. It's not necessarily talent in music, but there is definite marketing talent and promo talent involved. A lot of people in the US listen to trash because that's what is available to them on the radio. I know if I listen to my "rock" station, it's either Super Tramp or Nickelback. Neither of these bands do I get excited about listening to. Don't get mad at other people for making this stuff popular, just enjoy what you enjoy and be done with it.

Also, about metal concerts, I've had many a beer with many a metal head at many a metal show in many a concert hall. Don't kid yourself. People will take all sorts of "mind altering" substances when they're at a place to seek novelty/enjoyment for no other reason than they believe that it will heighten their experience. At a metal show, I drink several beers then stop just before the band comes on. This drug phenomenon is not limited to pop music, you can even find it at jazz and piano bars.

Take heart and know that everything is cyclical. Rap/Hip-hop dominate the mainstream, but if 2 or 3 good rock acts take the stage around the same time, it might swing back in Rock's direction.


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QUOTE (Goliath @ Mar 15 2008, 03:23 AM) *
Take heart and know that everything is cyclical. Rap/Hip-hop dominate the mainstream, but if 2 or 3 good rock acts take the stage around the same time, it might swing back in Rock's direction.

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Yeah,most of it isn't that great,that's bussiness unfortunately...

But there are still many awesome bands and artists working and rocking all around the globe.
Luckily,globe isn't such a small place. smile.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Mar 15 2008, 02:05 AM) *
just for this thread.. ...etc fun biggrin.gif theres my rant.. listen to the song if you want.. its actually kinda fun to listen to smile.gif


i like songs with message, but i dont like raps that just raps about how "i is well rich" or whatnot. daft punk type techno isnt really that mainstream i like daft punk, i am mainly complaining about 50 cent types...

QUOTE (Goliath @ Mar 15 2008, 02:23 AM) *
This drug phenomenon is not limited to pop music, you can even find it at jazz and piano bars.

yeah i know, but there are less people out of there heads at proper concerts than rubbish (imo) ones... besides from stoner rock, but that is just funny.

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Yeah,most of it isn't that great,that's bussiness unfortunately...

But there are still many awesome bands and artists working and rocking all around the globe.
Luckily,globe isn't such a small place. smile.gif


yeah there are, LOTS of them. but they never seem to get the stuff they deserve sad.gif like someone else said above
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