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post Mar 21 2008, 12:29 PM
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I don't mind a live show having a good sound and have the audience mixed fairly low and raised for certain sections of singing that is important but to change some mistakes they may of made is ridiculous as it changes the experience especially for people that are there. I love watching a live show and smiling when I realise they are human and yet on DVD there are no errors. I mean like if you watch the Alice In Chains Unplugged DVD he messes up and sings the wrong verse and he has a laugh and jokes with the crowd and they start the song again but it's real. The Death DVD is unedited. Great sound and visuals but the mistakes are left in and I for one love it.


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post Mar 21 2008, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Mar 21 2008, 12:29 PM) *
I don't mind a live show having a good sound and have the audience mixed fairly low and raised for certain sections of singing that is important but to change some mistakes they may of made is ridiculous as it changes the experience especially for people that are there. I love watching a live show and smiling when I realise they are human and yet on DVD there are no errors. I mean like if you watch the Alice In Chains Unplugged DVD he messes up and sings the wrong verse and he has a laugh and jokes with the crowd and they start the song again but it's real. The Death DVD is unedited. Great sound and visuals but the mistakes are left in and I for one love it.


Yeah, DVDs are good with mistakes. But CDs with mistakes suck for me.


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QUOTE (SinoMan @ Mar 21 2008, 12:04 PM) *
Yeah, DVDs are good with mistakes. But CDs with mistakes suck for me.

I don't want a CD with mistakes but I also don't particularly want a CD with no mistakes by a band that can't actually play the song that quick say.


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post Mar 21 2008, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Mar 21 2008, 01:05 PM) *
I don't want a CD with mistakes but I also don't particularly want a CD with no mistakes by a band that can't actually play the song that quick say.


Like Dragonforce? laugh.gif


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post Mar 21 2008, 01:16 PM
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Exactly lol. They are overproduced and can't even play the stuff live because they haven't had to learn it at that speed for the recording process


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post Mar 21 2008, 06:06 PM
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Even if their live playing is not the most accurate, they are still one of the best live bands out there because of their energy and stage presence, Sam is always doing something entertaining on stage. . I feel like their sound NEEDS to be really polished in the studio since they have such a "Nintendo metal" type of sound, and in my opinion, it doesn't bother me. I really like DragonForce more for their energy than their musicianship. They create music that is still uplifting and aggressive, rather than the more common dark/angry aggression.


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post Mar 21 2008, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (Goliath @ Mar 21 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Even if their live playing is not the most accurate, they are still one of the best live bands out there because of their energy and stage presence, Sam is always doing something entertaining on stage. . I feel like their sound NEEDS to be really polished in the studio since they have such a "Nintendo metal" type of sound, and in my opinion, it doesn't bother me. I really like DragonForce more for their energy than their musicianship. They create music that is still uplifting and aggressive, rather than the more common dark/angry aggression.


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Nice topic. That's the reason why I enjoy a lot listening to Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix recordings and also why I respect a lot to the 80's rock singers like for example Bruce Dickinson or Bon Jovi. Auto tune didn't exist. ohmy.gif


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V good point Gabe - take away Antares/Melodyne etc and what would we have left? Both are too often over used.

I haven't an issue with most modern recordings but some are too processed and too manufactured...

On occasion, maybe from the other side of the fence, additional studio help is good. The ability to tidy up a bit on an other wise great take is a god send. Studio time - particularly if you have additional musicians, is expensive so if you can tidy up after the fact - well it can be the difference between a take and nothing.

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