Do You Believe In A God Or Gods? |
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Do You Believe In A God Or Gods? |
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Jul 6 2010, 11:18 AM |
The top bit was to answer tonyparnham, the second bit was your question, Alexiaden93.
Where does it say there will NOT be a judgement day? No one will know the day, but it says on Judgment day it will be signaled. Christ will descend. The dead souls will rise. Which is why I don't believe death as eternal damnation for the non-believers, etc. And they will be judged, each one according to his works. When you die, you soul lives on. This is hopeful for the innocent that die at birth or never had a chance at life to still make it into heaven. -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 6 2010, 08:06 PM |
Where does it say there will NOT be a judgement day? In the hearts of many Atheists. Are you saying the only true word is that of God? -------------------- My YouTube Channel
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Jul 6 2010, 08:24 PM |
I'm not passing any judgement nor am I some preacher. Nor will i know all the facts...
I'm not saying it's 100% proven facts and you must convert or anything like that. I just tried to show the way I think, probably totally different to the next. I tried to answer your and other questions the best I could and how I think about things. I replied to yours 'So your asking will good atheists go to hell?' before. It's not a simple subject either way you look at it. The simple answer is when we die, we are not judged right then and there, but at the day of Judgement Day. You are probably the biggest judge of yourself anyways here on earth. That's what I believe, you may have some different ideas. The moon landing was just an example to how you can look at things from two sides and take in total different facts. The same deal - do you believe in or celebrate... evolution = or God created the heavens and the earth ghosts/spirits = or human souls and the spirit of Christ the easter bunny = or the resurrection of Christ santa (coca cola) = or Saint Nick (christian) Christmas (pagan dancing naked, raping and murdering) = or the incorrect date of the birth of Christ (we don't know the real date) Thanksgiving = Christian semi-religious history of giving thanks to God St. Patrick's Day = celebrates Christian Saint Patrick St. Andrew's Day = celebrates Christian Saint Andrew Rest on Sunday = the Lord's rest day etc... Humans have be known to take exisiting things and twist them. The truth is holidays have been a part of Christianity from the beginning, with Easter being the oldest. You might want to stop celebrating them if it offences you. Christmas is a mix up. Seven days in a week with the weekend, also based from Christian religion. So there's two sides of everything, it's up to you what to believe or not. Something which could be a lie or something which could be a lie. There seems to be more lies around not being Christian. Anyway that just the way I look at it. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 6 2010, 08:38 PM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 6 2010, 08:46 PM |
Everyone sins, even Christians. The differences is, it's still celebrating days of darkness and pain only being ended by the rape and murder of innocents. Christians ask forgiveness and move on, and would never celebrate that but rather something positive.
This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 6 2010, 08:47 PM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 6 2010, 09:27 PM |
I replied to yours 'So your asking will good atheists go to hell?' before. That's not "mine" that's yours. If you're going to refer to my question, quote me, not yourself. And for your information (for the second time), I have never asked this question. Please give me a quotation, this could save you a lot of energy. ... Christmas (pagan dancing naked, raping and murdering) = or the incorrect date of the birth of Christ (we don't know the real date) ... Humans have be known to take exisiting things and twist them. The truth is holidays have been a part of Christianity from the beginning, with Easter being the oldest. You do realise that Christmas wasn't even called Christmas before? It's derived from Jesus Christ. The true name is "Sol invictus" or the return of the Sun after a long period of darkness in the season of winter. What can I say? Atheism used to be punishable by death, and without any significant sientific progress 2000 years ago, what were people to believe? Of course our society is based on Christianity and its many holidays. Yes we are not going to kill people, but is it because God told us not to, or because we actually have a brain, that does not need to follow a 10 cm wide book ? Seriously, everything you are saying is almost obvious. What does it all mean? Does it actually matter in this discussion that Christianity was the founder of modern day society? AS I SAID, and I repeat "Atheism used to be punishable by death, and without any significant sientific progress 2000 years ago, what were people to believe? Of course our society is based on Christianity and its many holidays." Oh and by the way... You do realise Paganism is thousands of years older than Christianity, and Judaism even more so? You are talking about Christianity as if it were the greatest belief in the world, which is expected from a follower of his faith. When protecting Christianity, use facts, not Christianity. History is far more relevant than any of what is said in the Bible? It's like saying "How can you really know for sure that we are actually going to be judged and end up like Michael Jackson's Thriller?" and you reply "Because in the Bible, God says that there will be a Judgement Day etc." I mean... That just doesn't have any value in an intellectual discussion, I apologise sincerely, but it doesn't. Everyone sins, even Christians. The differences is, it's still celebrating days of darkness and pain only being ended by the rape and murder of innocents. Christians ask forgiveness and move on, and would never celebrate that but rather something positive. You got me there. I rape my neighbour on Christmas, and I really believe all Atheists do the same. I mean, consumerism, good food, music and all of that is just a side-effect of this merry season. Symbolically, yes, we do rape our neighbours, and I am glad you don't. -------------------- My YouTube Channel
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Jul 7 2010, 12:40 AM |
Alexiaden93 are you mad at me for just giving my side?
Plus your not the only person on here who I've replied too, that was for someone else. Your've also proven my point, Humans have be known to take exisiting things and twist them... QUOTE You got me there. I rape my neighbour on Christmas, and I really believe all Atheists do the same. I mean, consumerism, good food, music and all of that is just a side-effect of this merry season. Symbolically, yes, we do rape our neighbours, and I am glad you don't. I know Christmas is a pagan celebration and been around longer... I even said that Christmas (pagan dancing naked, raping and murdering) or the incorrect date of the birth of Christ (we don't know the real date). I was simply saying which would you rather celebrate? Not that you may do it, but yet you still celebrate it just in a different lime-light? QUOTE Yes we are not going to kill people, but is it because God told us not to, or because we actually have a brain, that does not need to follow a 10 cm wide book? So I guess you can throw away all your books, books which contain knowledge and help you learn, you can still learn without them. Same diff. Mankind knows it, but still does it anyway so we don't follow it just because we know. You miss my point of human law is all based from that religion, thou say not steal, murder, etc. Is that such a bad thing? QUOTE When protecting Christianity, use facts, not Christianity. History is far more relevant than any of what is said in the Bible? Who said anything about protecting religion? It's been around for thousands of years and will probably be for years to come. Sure doesn't need any protection. If history is far more relevant, yet the religion is wrapped entirely around history and holidays, weeks, etc are all based from it, does that make it relevant enough? Showing a fact like finding the Ark will also prove as much as the moon landing, nothing to a non-believer who will twist it anyway. What's to say it's not just a fake anyway, can you prove any fact from fiction without someone else questioning it? Judgement Day 2012? There's scientific proof of it's existence and it's been calculated for thousands of years, plus its the end of the earths cycle. Does that make me believe it? Not really, it can easily be proven wrong too. Even if the bible is a story book or translated incorrectly, things in history and even today seem to still be based on it. That's what I take from it, and all I was trying to say. What really gets me is why people make such a big deal out of it if they don't even believe it. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 7 2010, 12:48 AM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 7 2010, 12:44 AM |
What really gets me is why people make such a big deal out of it if they don't even believe it. Well, if religion hasn't tolerated free-thinking since the beginning of time, I don't see why free-thinking should tolerate religion. As oxymoronic as it may sound. -------------------- My YouTube Channel
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Jul 7 2010, 12:59 AM |
It says God gave us free-will, isn't that free-thinking? Religion talks a lot about free-will, it's basically where it all started from. Otherwise we will all be just boring robots.
QUOTE What really gets me is why people make such a big deal out of it if they don't even believe it. I meant I don't understand why people get to the point of killing for just believing in something different - either way you look at it. It's kinda sad. I never preached, tried to convert or change anyones beliefs, nor am I saying I know all the answers, don't get me wrong there. I believe everyone should make up their own mind what to believe. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 7 2010, 01:06 AM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 7 2010, 07:57 AM |
So you work for the American Government? The biggest conspiracy cover ups in the world?
I kidd, no offence or blasphemy to your rocket scientist work! I really repect it, must be awesome to have that opportunity! The moon landing was just an example of how people can take something and twist it the other way - like religion. Yes, I do believe we made it to the moon, just not with Apollo 11. That made it into space then the facts start to fade, there is no solid proof without a conspiracy, lol. I enjoy conspiracy theories (only to see a different point of view) and ripping apart things, and yes I've even done that with religion, why else would I be discussing it. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 7 2010, 08:00 AM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Jul 7 2010, 03:08 PM
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Just a quick question
how do archeologists know where to start digging |
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Jul 7 2010, 03:09 PM |
Just a quick question how do archeologists know where to start digging A quick answer then: They find a secret treasure map marked X. -------------------- My YouTube Channel
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Jul 7 2010, 03:17 PM
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A quick answer then: They find a secret treasure map marked X. i found that map too |
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Jul 7 2010, 03:17 PM |
-------------------- My YouTube Channel
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