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post Mar 31 2008, 08:26 PM
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Ive got my multi effects pedal hooked up to my comp.. and im realising.. audacity sucks sad.gif im willing to spend some money on a program whos got suggestions smile.gif

Free suggestions are welcome but if i have to pay some to download it id be willing to do that too smile.gif

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The best you could do in my opinion would be Pro Tools 7 or Cubase SX3 of 4. If you wanna go cheaper there are programs like Acid Pro by Sony. Kyle Logue uses Acid Pro, and many use Cubase. Pro Tools comes in many M-Audio bundles so you could get some extra gear for like 200-400 dollar units!


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post Mar 31 2008, 09:00 PM
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Cubase is excellent and easy to get into and not that expensive really.


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post Mar 31 2008, 09:12 PM
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so if ive descided my sound card sucks + the multi effects pedal im using.. might i be better off getting something like Cubase and then just putting a mic on my amp rather than just plugging into my computer for recording?


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post Mar 31 2008, 09:42 PM
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Cubase wont get you better sound in that sense.
It's just software that makes the recording procedure alot easier
There's tools and plugins that can EQ, compress, noisegate etc. your guitars in cubase though.

But if your soundcard isnt any good, then you wont get that much better sound by mic'ing up. The mic has to go through the same soundcard.

What soundcard do you have btw?


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post Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM
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well when i check it it says the Manufacturer is Reltek and the Soundcard is a Reltek High Definition Audio.. all i know is that it doesn't sound good with anything.. even playing songs just on itunes or w/e.. so now that im explorering recording a little bit option 1 comes to recording to my computer and so im trying to get my computer ready to handle it.. unfortunatly im on a laptop too soo changing hardware isn't very logical


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post Mar 31 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:01 PM) *
well when i check it it says the Manufacturer is Reltek and the Soundcard is a Reltek High Definition Audio.. all i know is that it doesn't sound good with anything.. even playing songs just on itunes or w/e.. so now that im explorering recording a little bit option 1 comes to recording to my computer and so im trying to get my computer ready to handle it.. unfortunatly im on a laptop too soo changing hardware isn't very logical


You can always buy an external USB or a firewire soundcard (with a addon-pcmcia firewire card if your laptop lacks it)

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post Mar 31 2008, 10:21 PM
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Reaper is very cheap and extremey functional - I replaced Cubase with it. Plus TOny has a whole forum of lessons for Reaper!


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I was using Cool Edit but now I'm starting with Cubase and it looks great smile.gif


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cool thanks for all the ideas guys smile.gif ill be shopping around smile.gif


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I'd recommend Cubase, but there's many good programs out there... smile.gif
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dont overlook adobe audition or mackie tracktion 3.......Tracktion 3 has a very user friendly interface.


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I definitely recommend Nuendo/Cubase DAW.

ALso Trond is very right, you need a better sound card. Integrated solution is not good for recording.


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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Mar 31 2008, 07:08 PM) *
I definitely recommend Nuendo/Cubase DAW.

ALso Trond is very right, you need a better sound card. Integrated solution is not good for recording.


Yea, it will get you started but no more. You don;t have to spend a lot on this, but get a soundcard specifically made for recording and the results will be a lot better in quality and latency terms.


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I'm using Adobe Audition and Fruity Loops XXL. I've tried cubase, cakewalk and other packages, but wend back to Fruity loops. This is because it handled vst easier for me. And I've learned this program after Impulse tracker 3 (oldschool). So i'm familiar with it now, and because I've got to less time that I need to use for develop my skills in guitar playing at the moment. tongue.gif

I use a external Soundcard (Edirol UA-25) and my POD X3 Live for recording.

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Me too for Nuendo/Cubase.....For me it is the best,becouse of the functionality with VST instruments....even basic plugins that come with Nuendo are not that bad...recording quality off course has nothing to do with DAW station...but sound carad(converters quality)....so I think you should give more many for the sound card for start...
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As Nemanja said, converter quality on the card is the most important thing to watch for. The next thing to have is some DIBox or mic preamps integrated or external on the card based on what you gonna record with it.


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Smikey,
Nimanja and Ivan are spot on wrt the quality of the conversion - including, or perhaps especially the AD/DA. As Andrew says there is a big difference between gamer type soundcards and those aimed more for recording (whether home, semi or pro). One of the major aims of a recording soundcard is neutrality - so that it doesn't artificially alter the way you perceive your recording. Gamer type cards are almost the opposite - they set out to enhance certain frequencies to provide a particular type of aural effect. Regardless of this the on-board Realtek soundchip isn't up to what you want to do so needs upgrading asap.

WRT the sequencer - all the major sequencer platforms have some very happy users and some disillusioned ones. None, to date, is perfect. What is arguably best - rather like choosing a guitar - is to find one which you are comfortable working with and that fits your needs. One BIG advantage with Reaper is that you can try the full, uncrippled version before you decide to buy or not.

Just on the subject of Audacity - it isn't really a sequencer but is an audio editor - that may be part of the issue you've had with it. Keep the program but use it for sound wave editing.

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when i did work experience at the recording studio, they used this program called pyramix, it was great, very efficient and all, i think its quite old because they say they wanna update to pro tools,but it also means that it will be cheaper wink.gif
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Apr 1 2008, 04:13 PM) *
Smikey,
Nimanja and Ivan are spot on wrt the quality of the conversion - including, or perhaps especially the AD/DA. As Andrew says there is a big difference between gamer type soundcards and those aimed more for recording (whether home, semi or pro). One of the major aims of a recording soundcard is neutrality - so that it doesn't artificially alter the way you perceive your recording. Gamer type cards are almost the opposite - they set out to enhance certain frequencies to provide a particular type of aural effect. Regardless of this the on-board Realtek soundchip isn't up to what you want to do so needs upgrading asap.

WRT the sequencer - all the major sequencer platforms have some very happy users and some disillusioned ones. None, to date, is perfect. What is arguably best - rather like choosing a guitar - is to find one which you are comfortable working with and that fits your needs. One BIG advantage with Reaper is that you can try the full, uncrippled version before you decide to buy or not.

Just on the subject of Audacity - it isn't really a sequencer but is an audio editor - that may be part of the issue you've had with it. Keep the program but use it for sound wave editing.

Cheers,
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