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post Apr 6 2008, 09:08 AM
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I love old school metal, like metallica, megadeth, and black sabbath, i dont listen to much new stuff for i cant stand it. most of the time i just listen to my , cds, And then when i do turn on the radeo and listen to what is new i cant stand what i am hearing. I have just recently started listening to more progessive metal like dream theater. i feel like i am stuck in what to listen too. NEED HELP!
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post Apr 6 2008, 09:31 AM
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first of all, you're not gonna find very much good metal on the radio.. When I first got into metal, I only liked 80's metal.. But now I have discovered bands that aren't as famous as Metallica and Iron Maiden ect. but I like them a hundred times more! Especially Lamb of God and Gojira are "newer" metal bands that are amazingly good. Dont't be mistaken by new metal and nu metal, this is not nu metal! Nu metal is just a genre (that sucks IMO). There is lots of newer metal that is not in the genre nu metal. Which means: there is lots of newer metal band that doesn't suck. tongue.gif

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post Apr 6 2008, 09:52 AM
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As far as i'm concerned, you've answered your own question............



Dream Theater



Sorry im a DT nut- but honestly sometimes i find that i just cycle their albums now and then so their music doesnt get stale.

Maybe try out symphony x? Paradise Lost is a great album smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2008, 10:28 AM
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There's so much good metal out there you will never hear on the radio.

Symphony X, Strapping Young Lad or any Devin Townsend metal project, Angra, Septic Flesh, Testament, Meshuggah, Pain of Salvation, Ayreon, (old) In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, Krux,

There's a bit of style-variation in these bands though, but they are all great in my opinion.

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post Apr 6 2008, 10:58 AM
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As everony one said there are alot of great bands out there that are not as well known

Here are some that i listened to

Rhapsody of fire
Moonlight Agony
Nighwish
Blind Guardian
Hammerfall
Children of bodom
Stratovarius
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post Apr 6 2008, 11:26 AM
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I agree with Trond, If you wanna hear quality metal, don't try and look for it in the radio smile.gif

And if you like progressive metal, you must check out Opeth!


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post Apr 6 2008, 11:40 AM
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personally i love slipknot, best band ever in my opinion
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post Apr 6 2008, 11:41 AM
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If you want metal that is dirty and raw you should check out 80's/90's black metal. There is tons and tons of good bands in this genre, also new bands.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0haPd1AiAXY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0_F4KiYFVWQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n5TsYgBSN3U

etc.

most people wont like this right away, but bands like Opeth i think is a good start to get used to more heavy stuff. Opeth is ridiculously fantastic, so check them out if you havent yet.


Also check out Saxon and Pentagram(US). Very early heavy metal.

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post Apr 6 2008, 01:22 PM
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Theres music out there of every flavor and tons that match what sounds best to your ears, but you need to delve deeper with your research then just trying to find songs that the mainstream media force feed you by playing every hour on the radio. Alot of power metal bands take the sound of early metallica and iron maiden and put it on steroids. Sense you say you like Dream Theater, I think you may like some progressive power metal. A few bands to get you started off the top of my head are:

Kamelot
Blind Gaurdian
Adagio
Dragonforce
Rage
Sentenced
Edguy
Mercenary (definitly check these guys out, very under rated)

If you want something with less melody and more balls, heres a couple of the best

Protest the Hero - Im begining to sound like a fanboy but these guys deserve it, f'n crazy guitar skills
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
Machine Head - The Blackening
Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake
Unearth- The Oncoming Storm ( Their newest one kicks tail also)
The Human Abstract- Nocturne
Children of Bodom- Will either inspire you or depress the hell out of you because their so good
Between the Buried and Me - Colors
Avenged Sevenfold - Waking the Fallen (yeah I know, mainstream blah blah blah, this cd rocks, end of story)
Shadows Fall- Pretty much anything, these guys shred
Everytime I Die
Mastodon- Blood Mountain and Leviathon especially

Theres a whole lot of underground bands that I could list, but this is sort of metal 101 and I want you to try and find your own list of music you enjoy. Nothing happened to metal, its just not the most marketable music at the moment so it doesnt get as much exposure as the same sound garden and pearl jam songs a hundred times a day. You have to find it on your own, but honestly that half the fun haha. The internet is a wonderful tool. Happy Hunting !


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post Apr 6 2008, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (SEANCD2005 @ Apr 6 2008, 12:08 AM) *
I love old school metal, like metallica, megadeth, and black sabbath, i dont listen to much new stuff for i cant stand it. most of the time i just listen to my , cds, And then when i do turn on the radeo and listen to what is new i cant stand what i am hearing. I have just recently started listening to more progessive metal like dream theater. i feel like i am stuck in what to listen too. NEED HELP!


Well chances are you wont find good metal bands on the radio, Unless your paying for satellite radio and get the underground stations. You have to look in weird places, Searching the net will reveal some excellent bands.
If you want some bands with a more old school approach, check out Warbringer and EVILE, two awesome thrash bands bringing back the old school thrash riffage of slayer, exodus, megadeth, testament, and all the good stuff.

All in all alot has happened to Metal, Perhaps so much has happened to it in such subtle ways hidden from mainstream view, it goes unnoticed. If your into Progressive stuff like Dream Theater, check out Meshuggah, Evergrey, Opeth, Nevermore, and Jag Panzer, Name some genres you want to get into, and Ill gladly help you out, This is what im best at smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2008, 01:43 PM
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Music just runs in cycles like everything else and those cycles tend to overlap. Eventually it will come full circle again.

Imo todays nu-metal is a mashing together of 80's hard rock and grunge of the 90's.

Alot of people blame the downfall of 80's metal to Nirvana, i know alot of people will disagree with me but if you want my honest opinion about who brought about the change to what we have now look no further then Guns n Roses. They are the ones who bridged the gap between 80's metal and the seattle sound. Take a long listen to Guns n Roses and you will hear it.


Of course thats my opinion.


On another note most heavy metal that is good never got air play in their prime unless you listend to college radio stations.

Real good metal is always fringe with a tight nit following of hardcore fans.

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post Apr 6 2008, 02:13 PM
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I was the same way, until i listened to LAMB OF GOD... just tone out the singer and listen to the music.... nasty riffs..
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post Apr 6 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (D.Robinson @ Apr 6 2008, 08:43 AM) *
Music just runs in cycles like everything else and those cycles tend to overlap. Eventually it will come full circle again.

Imo todays nu-metal is a mashing together of 80's hard rock and grunge of the 90's.

Alot of people blame the downfall of 80's metal to Nirvana, i know alot of people will disagree with me but if you want my honest opinion about who brought about the change to what we have now look no further then Guns n Roses. They are the ones who bridged the gap between 80's metal and the seattle sound. Take a long listen to Guns n Roses and you will hear it.


Of course thats my opinion.


On another note most heavy metal that is good never got air play in their prime unless you listend to college radio stations.

Real good metal is always fringe with a tight nit following of hardcore fans.

Daniel



I agree with Daniel here. GNR really bridged the gap between the Seatle Grunge and 80's hair. Unfortunately,IMHO the grunge sound won the airwaves and eventually pretty much took bands like Tesla,Dokken,Motly Crue, ect.... off the shelves. Those bands that could see where things were going, and willing to give up there style to sell copies stayed around longer. Some are still selling out today!

Take a look at Bon Jovi for example. From there first album Runaway, to the crap they play today. It's almost like they have gone "country", to there credit, they are still selling out shows.

Personaly, I think the style of the 80's and early 90's are gone. Too much rap and pop music has taken over the top 40. Glad I have a good collection od cd's!


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post Apr 6 2008, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (D.Robinson @ Apr 6 2008, 09:43 AM) *
Music just runs in cycles like everything else and those cycles tend to overlap. Eventually it will come full circle again.

Imo todays nu-metal is a mashing together of 80's hard rock and grunge of the 90's.

Alot of people blame the downfall of 80's metal to Nirvana, i know alot of people will disagree with me but if you want my honest opinion about who brought about the change to what we have now look no further then Guns n Roses. They are the ones who bridged the gap between 80's metal and the seattle sound. Take a long listen to Guns n Roses and you will hear it.


Of course thats my opinion.


On another note most heavy metal that is good never got air play in their prime unless you listend to college radio stations.

Real good metal is always fringe with a tight nit following of hardcore fans.

Daniel

Hey!! I agree. It's true, Music just runs in cycles like everything else... I think, this is the best explanation.


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post Apr 16 2008, 04:52 PM
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As some others already stated, if you are looking for metal, the radio is definitely the wrong place wink.gif and about old vs new metal, well, I have my own philosophy about all this, for me there is music that I like, and music that I don't like, I don't care if it is old school metal, or Nu metal, or metal at all. And I am almost sure that if you keep exploring todays scene you will sooner or later find some new bands that you will also like. If you want some advice about progressive metal, I would also recommend Opeth, and one of my alltime faves: Fates Warning (check out "Awaken the Guardian!!!)


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I have to give a prop to the Opeth suggestion. My favorite metal band going at the mo'. Many other really good ones mentioned though smile.gif But I agree with what robin said, Opeth is a really good start for heavier new metal stuff.


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QUOTE (D.Robinson @ Apr 6 2008, 08:43 AM) *
Real good metal is always fringe with a tight nit following of hardcore fans.


XM's Liquid Metal (41, I think) channel does a pretty good job of getting a variety of different and interesting stuff on the air. At least for those of us in the US.


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Well, I obviously agree when it comes to the Opeth suggestion, I think they have something that everyone can like in them. And they are also a great way to get into the heavier stuff. (I still haven't found aband I like as much as Opeth)

Dream Theater is a good suggestion aswell.

And if you're into Sabbath maybe you should check out some traditional doom? You could try Candlemass and Krux as a start. (Even though I'm not a a fan of their stuff I still think they have some good riffs here and they and I can difenetly see how someone with different tastes than me could really like them.)


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Opeth is what happened to metal ( it got better smile.gif )

also check out

Gojira

In Flames

At the Gates

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actually we have one radio station that plays metal in the middle of the day,and they play every thing,and every kind and every time of day....but there is only one...so I agree there is no much metal in the radio....


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