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Mike Seddon
post Apr 8 2008, 08:00 PM
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All,

I've an old Les Paul Copy that is in need of some tender loving care.

Basically the pickups need replacing. The tone and volume controls also (they are either on full or off). The toggle switch clicks loudly when I change and the lead connector bangs loudly if I knock it while playing

I have two options.

1) Take it into my local Guitar shop and get them to do a full revamp - no idea what that costs yet

2) Buy new pickups & pots and install myself. Also resolder all the electronics (someone suggested that I might have dry solder problems so this might help greatly).


Any comments?

Is option 2 really only for professionals who know what they are doing?

I'm lucky enough to have Regent Guitars on my doorstep (www.guitars.co.uk) and they could offer a service so maybe thats my best bet.

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post Apr 8 2008, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Mike Seddon @ Apr 8 2008, 02:00 PM) *
All,

I've an old Les Paul Copy that is in need of some tender loving care.

Basically the pickups need replacing. The tone and volume controls also (they are either on full or off). The toggle switch clicks loudly when I change and the lead connector bangs loudly if I knock it while playing

I have two options.

1) Take it into my local Guitar shop and get them to do a full revamp - no idea what that costs yet

2) Buy new pickups & pots and install myself. Also resolder all the electronics (someone suggested that I might have dry solder problems so this might help greatly).


Any comments?

Is option 2 really only for professionals who know what they are doing?

I'm lucky enough to have Regent Guitars on my doorstep (www.guitars.co.uk) and they could offer a service so maybe thats my best bet.

Ta

Mike


why replace everything. just diagnose the problem, or replace one thing at a time. you really don't need a PhD to solder, you heat the metal and let the solder flow onto it. don't heat solder directly. don't rip it apart, what is this dry solder crap? just figure out the problem, or replace one thing at a time, least expensive parts first.

just like an auto mechanic does.
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post Apr 8 2008, 08:10 PM
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Soldering isnt that hard, but you should practice it a bit and get some experience before attempting it on a guitar.
There's a few good and safe soldering guides on youtube, might want to take a look at those first aswell.

But professional resoldering isnt that pricy really, not sure on a estimate.. but it's a fairly quick job


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post Apr 8 2008, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Apr 8 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Soldering isnt that hard, but you should practice it a bit and get some experience before attempting it on a guitar.
There's a few good and safe soldering guides on youtube, might want to take a look at those first aswell.

But professional resoldering isnt that pricy really, not sure on a estimate.. but it's a fairly quick job


Thanks for the advice. I'll certainly look at youtube.

I suppose what I was also asking is whether it is that simple to just solder in the parts or is there more to replaceing pickups, pots etc?
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post Apr 8 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Mike Seddon @ Apr 8 2008, 09:23 PM) *
Thanks for the advice. I'll certainly look at youtube.

I suppose what I was also asking is whether it is that simple to just solder in the parts or is there more to replaceing pickups, pots etc?


It's fairly simple.
Just make sure you get a fitting wiring diagram. If your Les Paul copy has got 2 humbuckers, 4 pots (2 vol, 2 tone), and a pickup-selector like usual Les Pauls, then a diagram for a ordinary Les Paul should work.

Also, make sure that when you buy new pots, you get some with the right ohm ratings. 500k ohm is usually the most common for humbuckers.


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I resolder my output jack all the time, damn wire always finds a way to break free, its easy for just one little wiring problem- but i've no experience in rewiring the entire guitar.

I guess that step my step would be okay to do though.
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post Apr 8 2008, 09:48 PM
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before soldering you have to draw the map of the wires . between pickups and all volume /tone nops and swich.
you can do a test on some wire as a demo. so you can learn that by your self so isnt hard to do it


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post Apr 8 2008, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Hisham @ Apr 8 2008, 08:48 PM) *
before soldering you have to draw the map of the wires . between pickups and all volume /tone nops and swich.
you can do a test on some wire as a demo. so you can learn that by your self so isnt hard to do it


Thanks guys.

Looks like I'll have a go myself.

I've already seen lots of advice about pickups but what about pots? Any suggestions? Ebay seems awash with them rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 8 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Mike Seddon @ Apr 8 2008, 09:23 PM) *
Thanks guys.

Looks like I'll have a go myself.

I've already seen lots of advice about pickups but what about pots? Any suggestions? Ebay seems awash with them rolleyes.gif


Sorry another quick question.

I just went onto ebay to pick up a soldering iron and I notice some state they come with lead free solder. I fully understand the health reasons for lead free solder but what about the electronic benefits - or is it all lead free now anyway?

Sorry if this is getting into an electronics class!
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post Apr 8 2008, 10:49 PM
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post Apr 8 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (Tmas @ Apr 8 2008, 09:49 PM) *
Just don't burn the bottom of your foot like me! lol


laugh.gif I haven't seen the top of my feet let alone the bottom since I turned 40!
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Trond gave a great advice - the main thing is to try soldering on other wires to see if you can do a proper good standing and firm soldering job. I fyou are certain to do it, - then do it yourself.

On the other hand these jobs done by pros are not that expencive, maybe 20-40$ top in my estimate. So if you have the money it is imo better to take it to the shop.


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QUOTE (Mike Seddon @ Apr 8 2008, 11:57 PM) *
laugh.gif I haven't seen the top of my feet let alone the bottom since I turned 40!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif good one!!
I agree with Trond, you need a little practice, but you can do it by yourself, soldering is not hard to do, you save some money and you'll proud fo yourself! Post some picture after you have completed the work!


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QUOTE (Danilo Capezzuto @ Apr 10 2008, 12:04 PM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif good one!!
I agree with Trond, you need a little practice, but you can do it by yourself, soldering is not hard to do, you save some money and you'll proud fo yourself! Post some picture after you have completed the work!

mad.gif mad.gif uff sorry...little mistakes as ever...you'll be proud of yourself...sorry again... mad.gif mad.gif


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