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post Apr 8 2008, 09:28 PM
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I already asked Ivan about this, but I want to hear from you guys too...



A couple of questions from your Songwriting Lesson, prefaced by the fact that it is amazing! And I feel as if I can finally write my own original stuff!

1. When you variate the progression changes in places like the chorus, bridge, etc...what is the way you do that? Do you just pick a random chord between I and VII, or do you specifically change to another number that still fits with the intervals that match the chord you originally had in place? I know they are interchangeable, but how do you know which "interchangability" is the best? (That seems vague, I hope you understand what I'm talking about.)

2. I noticed this song was written in D. If I apply the intervals for the minor scale (say Em for example).. (I know major is WWHWWWH), can I use this same structure as with tonic subtonic mediant etc to construct a relatively minor song? Or applying the intervals to a harmonic minor scale? How does this relate to modes? (Aeolian, Phrygian, etc)...

3. When you pick out the notes to add on to the chord, are they just random pickings, or basic intervals that stretch beyond the chord shape but remain actually in the scale? And for the intro (picking), is it just picking out the shape of the chord?

Thanks in advance, I'll be sure to ask anymore questions that I have.


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post Apr 9 2008, 09:23 PM
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Thanks man. I've tried to do the best possible stuff, and more songwriting lessons will sure to come wink.gif

Here are the asnwers:

1. I think you answered you own question. There are not general rules when making a song. You can pick randomly or form a pattern. Everything is good as long it sounds good to you. Interchangeable chords are just one way in approaching of harmonic change problem. You know what "interchangeability" is the best when you record it and think: "my god this sounds beautiful!" wink.gif

2. Wow, easy there, let's go from the beginning. The song is in D major. Logically we use Dmajor tonality right? Now what is the VI chord of D major scale? Yes it's Bminor. So if you wanna work from a minor scale all you have to do is treat that minor as the VI, and the formula is applicable there too. Get the picture?
Also all this relates to modes like this. Mode is a scale, that is built on top of every note of the scale. So I - Ionian, II - Dorian etc..

3. I think you can find all this in Andrew's theory lessons very thoroughly explained. Not that I don't want to explain it, but Andrew has already done an aexcellent job of making these theory lessons, especially about building chords and adding more notes to regular chords to create more complex voicings.


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post Apr 9 2008, 09:28 PM
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great tips there Ivan...thanks


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post Apr 9 2008, 10:24 PM
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No problem man, anytime smile.gif


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