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post Apr 9 2008, 10:08 AM
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gday mates....

i been playing guitar for a few years now but im completely new to this recording stuff.............i always get stuck with new riffs licks n solos i create in my head or on my guitar but they go by the way side coz i forget em.......so i wanna put a stop to this n start recording n saving the stuff i create...............i also wanna a device built in so that i can play the riffs for example record em then play em back so i can solo over em..........what do u pros reckon i should get im sick of losing this cool stuff i been creating...cheers for any advice


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post Apr 9 2008, 10:23 AM
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Easiest way to keep track of (atleast for me) what you record is to get a good soundcard, some good programs and record to computer.
I use Cubase, but thats quite expensive. There's cheaper software like Reaper that will do the trick.


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post Apr 9 2008, 10:31 AM
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creative sound card and big ram and cpu and HD for the PC . studio programs software like sonar or cubase or the easiest cakewalk pro 9 .and preamp or tonport


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post Apr 9 2008, 11:50 AM
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I'd go for a Line 6 Toneport and a cheap recording program like Reaper. This is a great way for beginners to start out.


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post Apr 9 2008, 12:13 PM
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If you just wanna save your ideas and riffs, I would definitely recommend this cheap version of toneport:

http://www.thomann.de/fi/line6_toneport_gx.htm

It's got good enough sounds to record your ideas and stuff, and as for the software, I would definitely recommend Reaper, check the free demo from their website smile.gif


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post Apr 9 2008, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Toni Suominen @ Apr 9 2008, 01:13 PM) *
If you just wanna save your ideas and riffs, I would definitely recommend this cheap version of toneport:

http://www.thomann.de/fi/line6_toneport_gx.htm

It's got good enough sounds to record your ideas and stuff, and as for the software, I would definitely recommend Reaper, check the free demo from their website smile.gif


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post Apr 9 2008, 12:36 PM
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whats this reaper software about...........do u like install it on yur computer and u can record stuff............can u mix stuff on it ..............how does it work??


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I also recommend Toneport + Reaper.

Reaper is a multi-track recording software, that allows you to record and play simultaneous tracks, like a backing + a solo etc.

Reaper is free to try, and easy to use. There are several models of Toneport you can get, cheapest one allos you to plug just 1 instrument at a time, other models allow to plug in instrument + mic, etc.

Check Line6 toneport page, and the review of toneport UX1 at the reviews section at this site:

http://line6.com/toneport/

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=9152

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Guitarport + Rifftracker or Reaper is OK. I've noticed that with my computer the Guitarport doesn't cut it. It records with low latency but playback when i have 4-5 tracks starts to get messy, at 6 tracks my Sony ACID Pro has response times up to 30 seconds (Reaper is better, only 10 seconds...) - playback goes silent frequently as the Toneport gets too much to do. It's as if the toneport handles the recording while leaving the playback to the internal soundcard (and mine sucks)
When I plugged my POD X3 into the same computer it's flawless.

So I could recommend the X3 which is a sound interface, practice- and live performance device in one. Needs XP ot 2000 on your PC.
Though the Guitarport seem to work well as a sound interface for everyone else so it's probably just my computer.

So if you get your ideas and you're close to a computer at all times when you want to record them a sound interface of any kind (one with amp modulation and effects is nice) + Reaper which you can use for free though they suggest you pay for it.


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post Apr 9 2008, 03:29 PM
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Sorry, don't mean to thread-jack, but I was about to ask the same question as Slash, so I think it'd be kinda pointless to make another similar thread.

I'm also looking to start recording riffs, and hopefully songs. Judging from the posts above Reaper is a good choice for beginner software. As for the interface, if I had to choose between the X3 and the Toneport UX2, what would be the better choice? (I have a stock soudcard, I guess it's pretty bad for recording music)

And I'd like to record complete songs, so is there a affordable drum program or something that I could use?

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post Apr 9 2008, 09:49 PM
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I think TOneport is well rounded solution for pilot recording, practicing and jamming along. I comes with Ableton Live Lite DAW software, and Gearbox effect modeller with built in tuner and metronome with some trivial drum pattern programming ability.


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post Apr 9 2008, 11:02 PM
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i have absolutely no idea whats goin on here........im lost ........if i was to get this reaper do i need anything else with it like these " soundcards" and "X3's" and "toneports".............or can i just download reaper and away i go...................hey im also wondering too right.........with any of these softwares can u just upload songs from yur computer and cut out say the guitars to the song and jam with the song like a backing?......does reaper do that?


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post Apr 9 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (slash85 @ Apr 10 2008, 12:02 AM) *
i have absolutely no idea whats goin on here........im lost ........if i was to get this reaper do i need anything else with it like these " soundcards" and "X3's" and "toneports".............or can i just download reaper and away i go...................hey im also wondering too right.........with any of these softwares can u just upload songs from yur computer and cut out say the guitars to the song and jam with the song like a backing?......does reaper do that?


You need a soundcard to plug the guitar into, and then software like reaper to record what goes into the soundcard.
You most likely allready have a soundcard though, you can use that if you have a "line-in" connection on it. Check on the back of the PC for that.

You cant remove guitartracks from ordinary songs like that. But you can make your own backingtracks in reaper.

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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Apr 10 2008, 08:16 AM) *
You need a soundcard to plug the guitar into, and then software like reaper to record what goes into the soundcard.
You most likely allready have a soundcard though, you can use that if you have a "line-in" connection on it. Check on the back of the PC for that.

You cant remove guitartracks from ordinary songs like that. But you can make your own backingtracks in reaper.


mr vold

i just downloaded reaper however im not sure if i have a line in thingy for the soundcard thingy i have no idea what it looks like even......how else can i go about this


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post Apr 10 2008, 12:25 AM
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so i just downloaded reaper right and am havin a bit of a fiddle with it..........say i record a riff right....can i use drum beats n bass lines that reaper has already installed on it to add to my riffs..................so u can kind of create yur own song or somethin and then mix it to make parts louder and what not........am i right in saying this????


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post Apr 10 2008, 12:30 AM
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Here's 2 different but typical looks for the average soundcard and the line-in plug:

Either built in on the mainboard it will look like this:


Or if you have a PCI/PCIe card:


There's offcourse dozens and dozens of different soundcards, and each will have a differnet amount of "holes" in the back.
If you have soundcards with mini-jack plugs like this, you will need a mini-jack plug for your jack-cable (the usual guitar cable).

You connect the guitar from a headphone/line-out on your amp and then make sure that the line-in option in your windows-mixer (the icon that looks like a speaker on your traybar) is not disabled.

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post Apr 10 2008, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Apr 10 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Here's 2 different but typical looks for the average soundcard and the line-in plug:

Either built in on the mainboard it will look like this:


Or if you have a PCI/PCIe card:


There's offcourse dozens and dozens of different soundcards, and each will have a differnet amount of "holes" in the back.
If you have soundcards with mini-jack plugs like this, you will need a mini-jack plug for your jack-cable (the usual guitar cable).

You connect the guitar either directly or from a headphone/line-out on your amp and then make sure that the line-in option in your windows-mixer (the icon that looks like a speaker on your traybar) is not disabled.

alright so i have run into some problems already.............for starters i have a laptop and there are none of those line in jacks or anything on it......and i have a marshall jvm 410c head and it doesnt have headphone jacks ....it has line out but its got three little prongs things in it .....so i wont accommodate a guitar cable...................sorry this is probably painful for youse but i just play guitar i have never experimented with all this sort of stuff so cheers for baring with me wink.gif


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QUOTE (slash85 @ Apr 10 2008, 01:38 AM) *
alright so i have run into some problems already.............for starters i have a laptop and there are none of those line in jacks or anything on it......and i have a marshall jvm 410c head and it doesnt have headphone jacks ....it has line out but its got three little prongs things in it .....so i wont accommodate a guitar cable...................sorry this is probably painful for youse but i just play guitar i have never experimented with all this sort of stuff so cheers for baring with me wink.gif


The easisest way would be to buy a Toneport gx ar another usb device


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Ah.. i knew i forgot to take a laptop into consideration sad.gif

Yes, as superize said, the best option then is a USB toneport.
The toneport has Hi-Z aswell, so you can connect the guitar un-amplified directly to it. And you dont need any conversion plugs on the cable.


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QUOTE (superize @ Apr 10 2008, 09:42 AM) *
The easisest way would be to buy a Toneport gx ar another usb device

so the tone port acts like the sound card or somethin............do u hook the toneport up to yur amp or do u just hook yur guitar into the toneport and then link the toneport to the computer


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