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post Apr 17 2008, 02:15 AM
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This is probably kicking a dead horse but I still wanted to put in my two cents smile.gif

@drw84215 - Well I have to agree with pretty much all that has been said here in this thread. I don't think it was very productive on your part to post your departure the way you did. The majority of us members here are very passionate about this site, basically a home away from home, so when you insult the site you insult us pretty much.

I am a firm believer in what you get out of something depends on what you put into it and I don't think you really gave GMC much of a chance. If you're looking for someone to hold your hand and tell ya what to practice and how to practice then yes GMC is probably not for you and maybe you should look into private lessons as I'm sure you won't find that kind of 1 on 1 on the web. If that sounds snarky I apologize but it is the truth.

GMC is so much more then just video lessons. It's a community where people help each other achieve a common goal which is to improve on guitar. I understand what you're saying about the lessons. I can't say that I agree with you 100% but it sounds like you may have had some great suggestions. The beauty of this community is that when suggestions are made the administrators listen, heck we even have a sub forum for such topics. It may have been more productive to post your suggestions there instead of claiming that this place "sucks". GMC is always looking for ways to improve so I'm sure your suggestions would have been welcome.

Now getting back your idea of lack of structure, at least that's how I took it. Practice is a very individual thing, for someone else to just set up a generic list of what lessons to practice is just boring in my opinion. I don't want someone telling me what to practice, I have enough people at work who tell me what to do I don't need it with guitar too. However if you weren't sure what to practice and wanted suggestions as to how to proceed, well I have no doubt someone would have helped you out.

Did you try the lesson planner on the main page? It's a great little feature. Helps you create your own schedule. Also The lessons are even assessed levels of difficulty now so you could even go by that if you wanted. Also have the bookmarking feature for easy access. How often did you go through the forum? I've said it so many times now I think I'll make a t-shirt but the Forum is just as important as the lessons. They go hand in hand IMO. I mean besides all the great GMC members who have a wealth of knowledge that they are eager to share, the instructors have their own boards where you can pose questions that I assure you they will answer if they can. The key to success is a bit of effort.... on your part.

Now you already made your decision to leave, not even sure if you'll even read this rather long post but if you think this site "sucks" then fine it's your opinion. However I challenge you to find another site where the creator is just as active as most of the members, the instructors are some of the most active posters on the forum and not just on their own boards, where members can become student instructors with the chance of becoming actual instructors, you can create virtual bands, post original material and receive honest constructive feedback, share your lyrics, chat live with others, join in competitions for amazing prizes, get real honest reviews on just about everything, join in on collaborations, a guitar wiki and some of the nicest people on the web, well if you can find all that fine all the more power to you. But personally I think that you just left the best place on the web.

Good luck with your practicing man and I hope you find whatever it s your looking for.

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post Apr 17 2008, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Apr 16 2008, 08:38 PM) *
This post made me cringe. You blame instructors on being lazy and not pulling their part indirectly and then you fail to support your post with any grammar once so ever. People may take you more seriously if you didn't seem like a 9 year old kid whining.

Andrew's theory lessons are as good as they get, trust me, if you would like, I can post a picture of the theory instructional books I have spent about $100 on. After going through all these, I can safely say that with the proper time dedicated, asking questions, and studying and understanding, Andrew's theory lessons are all you will ever need. Music isn't about all about theory like you seem to think, I used to think it was, and trust me, it isn't. Most of the riffs and solos I have come up with are purely from what I hear in my head, I may use theory to perfect them or something, but overall, it is not THAT important. Especially melodic theory like scales/modes etc, frankly I understand them very well but they are of no use to me. Rhythmic theory I think is much more important and you should spend time on them.

You post makes no senese at the end. You don't want to learn "no name guitar player riffs," so that means what you want to learn is guitar riffs that are well-known, well guess what, you can get free tabs for those. Wait, you don't like tabs either. I just don't get what you want. And besides, no one says you have to look at the tabs in the lessons here, you can read the theory notes, learn the scales that the lesson is based in, and figure them out by ear, I have done it.

I could say much more, but for now I would just leave it that you are just way too ignorant to be talking right now.

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post Apr 17 2008, 03:15 AM
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i wanna kick the dead horse too smile.gif GMC OWNS!( this is probably the only thing i can spam on this site and still get an AMEN ever time smile.gif ) also if you think there are bad quality lessions.. then only watch the good quality ones.. to tell the truth i only have about 12 lessions book marked.. but every time i need another good 1 the best way to find 1 if you don't want to search is well.. ASK!.. i log in every day and ive watched just about every lession that has been made on this site since i got here.. and there are people who have lessions book marked from every genre! instead of saying this is too cluttered say.. excuse me Mr The Uncreator which is the best Metal lession in your opinion.. or.. HEY MURIS I WANNT WORK ON AP do you have a lession that could help me?...

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post Apr 17 2008, 03:34 AM
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Wow, that's a huge thread. Well, I won't give a full read, but just a thought for the initial poster.

I don't like all the lessons the same, but I just learned what are the kinds of lessons I like, and some preferred instructors (which of course will vary based on the style you want to play). From time to time I check oldest lessons from these instructors.
I always check the new stuff, and bookmark what I want to learn... Sometimes something just pops up to my eyes on the random lessons part, and yes I like it...

I am pretty sure if you think about the songs you listen on the radio you would probably say also that for every good song there are 10 bad songs (since I can read from your post that you are mindset about style)

Also, the forum is worth even more than the videos, I'd say...


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post Apr 17 2008, 03:41 AM
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I have to admit that i was very upset when Pavel left, but im not going anywhere... Its the best value out there...
I like GMC, i just wish there were more riff lessons....hint, hint... smile.gif


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post Apr 17 2008, 04:57 AM
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QUOTE (drw84215 @ Apr 16 2008, 01:57 PM) *
im leaving GMC. i am not happy with the website. the lessons are scattered everywhere. there is no logic. basicly a new teacher every time i log on. i feel like the lessons on the site are just to meet quota. a new lesson everyday? i dont want quanity i want GOOD quality. somthing i have not found in GMC. there are some good lessons. but for every good lesson there are 10 bad lessons. they dont explain anything. and nwo that pavel is gone im going to find a new way to learn guitar. thank you for a waste of time.


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post Apr 17 2008, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (drw84215 @ Apr 16 2008, 08:57 PM) *
im leaving GMC. i am not happy with the website. the lessons are scattered everywhere. there is no logic. basicly a new teacher every time i log on. i feel like the lessons on the site are just to meet quota. a new lesson everyday? i dont want quanity i want GOOD quality. somthing i have not found in GMC. there are some good lessons. but for every good lesson there are 10 bad lessons. they dont explain anything. and nwo that pavel is gone im going to find a new way to learn guitar. thank you for a waste of time.


A new lesson everyday is too much?
You seem to forget that there are other members on this site aswell who might need a new lesson that day.
And maybe that lesson you think is just a qouta-filling bad one turns out to be highly valuable lesson to someone else?

Shame to see you leave like this, but the site does not evolve around just you.

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post Apr 17 2008, 06:18 AM
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Well it's too bad you didn't get as much out of the site as I think most of us do. Honestly I highly doubt you're going to find a better site than this one.

The way I look at most of the daily video lessons is like this: they are a combination of exercises to become more proficient with different aspects of playing such as alternate picking etc. and they are examples of how to construct riffs and solos using different keys and scales. The videos do not normally go in depth about theory, that's where Andrew's lessons come in. These really need to be studied, you can't just read them and through osmosis understand how it all works, you have to internalize the information and try to apply it yourself. Maybe you would benefit more from one on one lessons with a person who walks you through the theory...I find sometimes someone explaining something to me face to face is easier than reading it from a book anyway.

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post Apr 17 2008, 04:26 PM
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You know... constructive criticism is a great thing, if you don't like something about this site, why don't you just start a topic about this and discuss about it, maybe the negative aspect that you see applies to others too and we can change it. But what you do is not constructive at all, it is just bashing... well, that's a waste of time, sorry. If you don't understand something about a lesson, why don't you just ask the instructor? You will be surprised, we answer questions if we are asked. If a new lesson each day is too much for you, why don't you skip some of them and just focus on your fave ones? And guess what, if you want to learn how to play guitar, well sorry again, you will HAVE to work for this, like the other students do too and as all of us instructors also did, unfortunately you don't learn how to play an instrument by reading some theoretical tutorials.
But well, I will stop this now, have fun looking for a better place


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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Apr 17 2008, 09:26 PM) *
You know... constructive criticism is a great thing, if you don't like something about this site, why don't you just start a topic about this and discuss about it, maybe the negative aspect that you see applies to others too and we can change it. But what you do is not constructive at all, it is just bashing... well, that's a waste of time, sorry. If you don't understand something about a lesson, why don't you just ask the instructor? You will be surprised, we answer questions if we are asked. If a new lesson each day is too much for you, why don't you skip some of them and just focus on your fave ones? And guess what, if you want to learn how to play guitar, well sorry again, you will HAVE to work for this, like the other students do too and as all of us instructors also did, unfortunately you don't learn how to play an instrument by reading some theoretical tutorials.
But well, I will stop this now, have fun looking for a better place


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post Apr 17 2008, 04:36 PM
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:39 PM
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Oh and BTW, Andrew's theory lessons kick ass, if you didn't understand ANYTHING you could have brought it up in the theory board and he and other members would try thier best to help you.


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post Apr 17 2008, 04:46 PM
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man I'm getting tired of seeing these kinds of threads :S
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (Rolls @ Apr 17 2008, 04:46 PM) *
man I'm getting tired of seeing these kinds of threads :S

A lot of people are. It seems like they want to rub it in that GMC is losing a member but god knows how many new members join each day. There will always be people who leave and they may even come back in the future. We don't need a thread for everyone lol otherwise there would be a lot of I'm Leaving GMC thread.

Maybe we should have a sticky thread called I'm leaving GMC for everyone to post their leaving messages in there lol biggrin.gif


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For the record... I learned more about Music Theory just from reading Andrew's "Chords for Scales" Lesson. Than I had learned in my previous 5 years of playing guitar.

Andrew Pwns.

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QUOTE (Slammer @ Apr 17 2008, 06:36 PM) *
For the record... I learned more about Music Theory just from reading Andrew's "Chords for Scales" Lesson. Than I had learned in my previous 5 years of playing guitar.

Andrew Pwns.

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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Apr 17 2008, 01:43 PM) *
Andrew does indeed "Pwn" laugh.gif wink.gif


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post Apr 17 2008, 08:06 PM
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btw .. where is andrew.. its been a while since ive heard from him.. im sure hes still kicken but...


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