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post Apr 25 2008, 01:10 AM
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Heres a live clip from them, check it out he does one hand in the air riffing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm8HOviVIfY...feature=related

I dont know why there are soo many haters... gates is doing what everyone of us would like to do, his job is to play guitar and this song does kick ass...

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post Apr 25 2008, 01:24 AM
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I'm just going to say something noticed. With metal guitarists there are several kind.
1) Elites, these people ave mastered speed and accuracy, AND they have there other techniques (such as vibrato legato and bends, just to name a few) just as good. They have the knowledge of music theory and are able to APPLY it to there music. 2)Ehhhh, these people most likely have got there speed picking fast, but its sloppy, and they don't know because they use way to much distortion. They also have little experience in areas that are just as important to guitar such a vibrato and bends, and fail to use them if at all. They fall into the speed trap (quite literally) and they are unable to change.
Some of my favorite metal solos are slow and have extensive vibrato and bends. Speed is not necessary, although it can be a good thing in doses. Thats my opinion, and we are all entitled to our own.

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post Apr 25 2008, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ Apr 24 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Heres a live clip from them, check it out he does one hand in the air riffing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm8HOviVIfY...feature=related

I dont know why there are soo many haters... gates is doing what everyone of us would like to do, his job is to play guitar and this song does kick ass...

i thank god every day im not a fan of this band. its NOT metal, its pop, marketed to people who cant handle REAL metal. posers like this give ALL music a bad name.


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post Apr 25 2008, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Apr 24 2008, 08:35 PM) *
i thank god every day im not a fan of this band. its NOT metal, its pop, marketed to people who cant handle REAL metal. posers like this give ALL music a bad name.

its not pop thats for sure, i dont understand why u hate them so much wink.gif


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post Apr 25 2008, 01:56 AM
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Its music, So not everyone is gonna like it. And more people hate it, always, thats just the way it is.

If you like it, Well more power to ya smile.gif

If ya dont, then dont bother with it I say. wink.gif
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post Apr 25 2008, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:57 PM) *
i have, and it sucks. its all just a bunch of random notes strung together. this is not metal, its crappy pop marketed as metal to people who don't know any better.


if thats ur opinion, then whatever, not a big deal to me smile.gif


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post Apr 25 2008, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Apr 25 2008, 01:35 AM) *
i thank god every day im not a fan of this band. its NOT metal, its pop, marketed to people who cant handle REAL metal. posers like this give ALL music a bad name.


Youre funny.... laugh.gif


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post Apr 25 2008, 02:12 AM
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This thread remember me to when Guns and roses appeared. All the people was fighting saying that it was metal and that it wasn't metal, that they were true rock and that they were false wock... and lots of things like that. Now I can say that they was one of the best rock bands of the 90's. (Maybe the best)

Ax7 can't be compared to GNR off course... but this remembers me to it. I think that Ax7 has something that makes them special (NOTE: I don't listen to them). Otherwise nobody would be talking about them... come on! There are a lot of bad/ugly bands around the world... blink.gif why are we talking about ax7? ohmy.gif


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post Apr 25 2008, 05:47 AM
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I like their music and think they have a pretty unique sound.

Whether or not they are considered metal or not I dont think really matters.....some people like them and some people dont.

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post Apr 25 2008, 08:02 AM
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I hate the vocals.


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post Apr 26 2008, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (botoxfox @ Apr 25 2008, 09:02 AM) *
I hate the vocals.


Because?


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post Apr 26 2008, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (stratman33 @ Apr 24 2008, 10:13 PM) *
what i dont understand is that lots of people say synyster gates sucks.i think thats just stupid, because hes a great guitarist IMO.

i havent heard much from him, but ive heard a long jam he did live. i have no words, its so amazingly bad. it sounds like those people who are joking with clapton, vai etc. when they take a live vid and play over it super bad. thats just my opinion though.


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post Apr 26 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Apr 24 2008, 11:57 PM) *
i have, and it sucks. its all just a bunch of random notes strung together. this is not metal, its crappy pop marketed as metal to people who don't know any better.


Thats a bit extreme, but they are really poppy, especially their newest album. They're awfully emo and gay, especially zacky vengeance. And seriously, whats with the dodgy, self-coined nicknames, it a bit pathetic. Their terrible gay-poser image really destroys a reaonable band IMO.

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Because?


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post Apr 26 2008, 10:39 PM
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Well it's a bit extreme to call them "awfully emo and gay" and "terribly gay posers" too in my opinion ...


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post Apr 26 2008, 11:10 PM
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Bottom line is that they are getting paid to play music.... and anyone who can get paid for doing what they love, you cant hate them for that...

Sounds like alot of jealousy around here... tongue.gif


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post Apr 26 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Batista @ Apr 26 2008, 05:39 PM) *
Well it's a bit extreme to call them "awfully emo and gay" and "terribly gay posers" too in my opinion ...

except thats exactly what this band is. it might be easy to overlook their inanely stupid "nicknames" and poser attitude if the music was actually heavy, complex or even good, but its not, so they don't have a leg to stand on. its a classic example of all style (bad style at that) and no substance. there is SOOO much good metal out there these days, lamb of god, high on fire, Nile, just to name a few. try listening to some of those.


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post Apr 26 2008, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Apr 26 2008, 06:17 PM) *
except thats exactly what this band is. it might be easy to overlook their inanely stupid "nicknames" and poser attitude if the music was actually heavy, complex or even good, but its not, so they don't have a leg to stand on. its a classic example of all style (bad style at that) and no substance. there is SOOO much good metal out there these days, lamb of god, high on fire, Nile, just to name a few. try listening to some of those.


well i hate screamo and growling and those bands probably are screamo and growling, and yes i have to agree that their nicknames suck


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I don't care if they have nicknames or not, even though I don't have anything against it. But they must have done something right since they are so famous and so popular.


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Sounds like alot of jealousy around here... tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Batista @ Apr 26 2008, 07:29 PM) *
I don't care if they have nicknames or not, even though I don't have anything against it. But they must have done something right since they are so famous and so popular.

Agreed!



I agree. Howwever if we are talking about the newer bands I like THIS ONE ,
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post Apr 26 2008, 11:45 PM
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I like bullet for my valentine... wink.gif

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I agree. Howwever if we are talking about the newer bands I like THIS ONE ,
do you hate them too? ohmy.gif


You should do a in the style of bullet for my valentine lesson... biggrin.gif

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