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post Apr 25 2008, 04:21 PM
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Can anyone write me an answer to the question how to get a good tone with your modeling device or amp. I have some troubles getting a nice big sound, and not the tiny one I have now (if you get what I mean biggrin.gif ) I need advice on how to get the good sound for diffrent styles, so not just examples, but how you make them. So that I can make my own sound for rock, or jazz or what so ever. I hope someone can help me or write a wiki about it (that would be even better!) or maybe do a SI lesson with it (you can win a prize smile.gif )

I hope to get it right once...

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post Apr 25 2008, 04:27 PM
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i'm coming across a similar problem, but to get a great tone you need tubes. at leas a valvereactor like in VOX VALVETRONIX AMPS. sry


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post Apr 25 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (Marshmall0wz @ Apr 25 2008, 10:27 AM) *
i'm coming across a similar problem, but to get a great tone you need tubes. at leas a valvereactor like in VOX VALVETRONIX AMPS. sry


tubes help a lot, but from my experience, the speaker in the amp makes a huge difference. what kind of cab are you running your modeler through?
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post Apr 25 2008, 04:47 PM
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What equipment do you use? If you use a small practice amp, you'll probably not get the big warm sound your looking for. Upgrade to at least a 50 watt tube. Better yet get one with more than one speaker like a 2 x 12.


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post Apr 25 2008, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Apr 25 2008, 11:21 AM) *
Can anyone write me an answer to the question how to get a good tone with your modeling device or amp. I have some troubles getting a nice big sound, and not the tiny one I have now (if you get what I mean biggrin.gif ) I need advice on how to get the good sound for diffrent styles, so not just examples, but how you make them. So that I can make my own sound for rock, or jazz or what so ever. I hope someone can help me or write a wiki about it (that would be even better!) or maybe do a SI lesson with it (you can win a prize smile.gif )

I hope to get it right once...

Grtz biggrin.gif Kaz


Kaz, I see you have a Toneport, if you hav'nt already, try some other members patches to see how they sound to ya. Here's the link.

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QUOTE (skennington @ Apr 25 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Kaz, I see you have a Toneport, if you hav'nt already, try some other members patches to see how they sound to ya. Here's the link.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=10174


That's definitely the best way to go! Start off with something other people think sound good- and eventually you will start tweaking it a little, then alot- eventually you will have your own unique sound!
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post Apr 25 2008, 07:27 PM
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for a good tone you must have a tube amp or preamp tube other wise good pickups +tube = good & warm sound


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post Apr 25 2008, 07:37 PM
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I've managed to get some real good tones using my GT-8 board directly into my soundcard.

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post Apr 26 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (bham @ Apr 25 2008, 05:45 PM) *
tubes help a lot, but from my experience, the speaker in the amp makes a huge difference. what kind of cab are you running your modeler through?


Just a cheap Arrow 16 with Celestion speaker, I think the man behind the knobs is more important than the cab or modeler...


Thanks for the help, Skennington, I don't have a toneworks with user interface, but some people post images instead of patches, I can use those to get these settings. And for all the people who said I needed better equipment, as long as I can't get the max out of my cheap stuf, I won't buy anything new. The man behind the knobs is more important than the gear! I don't need a pro sound with super expensive Amps, just something nice with my recording... I don't even use an amp when recording, so I don't need a tube-amp. And they're also very very expensive...

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post Apr 27 2008, 10:38 AM
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I understand your attitude and I agree that you should try to get the best tone out of the equipment that you have now, but you have to be aware of the fact that if you are using very cheap equipment your sound will always be limited, no matter how long you will work on it. The man behind the knobs can't perform miracles when the tools are not good enough. I would also suggest that you check out some settings of other users that have similar equipment, then you could try to tweak the settings a bit to adjust them to your personal taste, if it works, fine, if not you can still consider to get some new gear. The most important thing in my opinion is that you have an idea about what sound you want, so you can clearly work on reaching this, instead of blindly twisting some knobs and checking if the result sounds nice.


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post Apr 27 2008, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Apr 27 2008, 11:38 AM) *
I understand your attitude and I agree that you should try to get the best tone out of the equipment that you have now, but you have to be aware of the fact that if you are using very cheap equipment your sound will always be limited, no matter how long you will work on it. The man behind the knobs can't perform miracles when the tools are not good enough. I would also suggest that you check out some settings of other users that have similar equipment, then you could try to tweak the settings a bit to adjust them to your personal taste, if it works, fine, if not you can still consider to get some new gear. The most important thing in my opinion is that you have an idea about what sound you want, so you can clearly work on reaching this, instead of blindly twisting some knobs and checking if the result sounds nice.


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post May 7 2008, 05:59 PM
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How do you guys build it? What effect chain do you use, or how do you come up with a EQ setting?


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post May 7 2008, 09:52 PM
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What EQ settings? You mean on an amp or the toneport?


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post May 8 2008, 12:45 AM
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Well best way is to experiment on your own and try to learn which knob does what..There is no instant good sound answer smile.gif Really depends on a lot of factors and end result is always subjective (sounds good to person that made it not with a rule that it sound good to everyone else)...When you get familiar well with your equipment you will surly know how to make a sound that you imagine in your head smile.gif

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