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post May 8 2008, 09:47 PM
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Hi there,

Here is a song I came up today inspired by Joe Kataldo pop struming lesson. I did the progression in E minor. Thanks for the lesson Joe.

I would like to read comments about it.

Thanks.

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post May 8 2008, 09:53 PM
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i think it was very good biggrin.gif
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post May 8 2008, 10:59 PM
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Nice idea.Few tips(recording).Pad is to strong(in relation to main guitar),and try not to pan main pad,try to put him in a middle and spread a round equally.Or,make the rhythm guitar on the right and pad to the left,but make shore that they are equally in volume,but lower that solo guitar.


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post May 8 2008, 11:17 PM
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sorry for my ignorance what is a pad?

Thanks for the tips.


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post Jul 25 2008, 03:44 PM
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nice idea...try to improve the mix smile.gif

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sorry for my ignorance what is a pad?

Thanks for the tips.



a background of chords like violins or such


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post Jul 25 2008, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (coffeeman @ May 9 2008, 12:17 AM) *
sorry for my ignorance what is a pad?

Thanks for the tips.


pad are keyboards ...

nice idea , just the mix isn't very good..


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Thanks for the comment guys, Im working on my mixing skills.


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post Aug 9 2008, 02:45 AM
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Sorry for the long post. I guess I get carried away this this stuff sometimes. biggrin.gif


Mixing for sure is a bit of an art and a science at the same time.
I read an article once regarding a good starting point for a mix. You have to use your mixer's meters to do this. Most software mixers have decent meters on each track.

The idea is to get all the levels established systematically first, (the science part), and then to go back listen, reflect, and modify the mix to taste (the art part).

Here are the various levels that can be used as starting points...

  • Snare = 0 db
  • Kick = -3 db
  • Hat = -6 db
  • Toms = 0 db
  • Cymbal= -6db
  • Bass = -6 db
  • Rhythm Guitar = -6db
  • Pad (soft keyboards) = -9db
  • Lead Guitar = -6db
  • Vocals = 0 db



Ok, if you're new to "db" (decibels), zero is louder, each -3db is perceptably softer but not (way softer).
The above is a good starting point in a mix.
Start without using any effects whatsoever.
Set up your song as above and then listen to see what you like and don't like about the various levels of each piece.
Panning is an important part to getting each instrument to where you can hear it and yet keeping it from competing with other instruments in the mix. Tweak this until you have something you are happy with.

From there, add effects.
  • Start with eq on each part. Use eq to also help keep instruments from competing with one another.
  • Add compression to parts that vary in loudness where they seem to be too loud at one point and too soft at another.
  • Add chorus & delay to the parts to your liking.
  • Add reverb to the total mix.
  • In general, and in a final mix, less is more when it comes to effects. Start with lower settings first.


Now that everything is "in" so to speak, take a break, give your ears a rest, and come back when you're fresh.
Tweak the whole project to your liking. I think the "art" comes in during this process. The key is listening very carefully to each part to get an idea for how it "sits" in the mix.

Of course, there are many ways to go about it and as you do more of this, your style will grow as will your ability to "get it right the first time". For me, it's a very fun part of the musicians experience, cause that's the time I get to listen to and "marvel" at my creative skills smile.gif ... and of course, it's also the time to hear all the mistakes and timing errors that I made when cutting that guitar solo track. mad.gif biggrin.gif




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post Aug 9 2008, 10:22 AM
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I also think this was a good idea for a song, keep it up smile.gif
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post Aug 9 2008, 10:37 AM
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Very nice mate. I suggest leveling up the guitar with teh backings it's way to back. Try rendering again and uploading.


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post Aug 10 2008, 11:09 AM
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@ JamesT
Thanks for the great post man, really helpful stuff,I disagree a bout the db for pad,I use -20 db or more for the soft keyboards.IMO pad is for filling up the sound picture and it should be quiet as hell.smile.gif


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Thank for your comments and your advices guys. I will upload a new version a.s.a.p.


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