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Apr 14 2009, 09:58 PM |
Just a moderator reminder - Don't offer solutions to how to download without uploading. GMC doesn't support illegal filesharing.
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All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello |
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Apr 14 2009, 10:40 PM |
Now you suggest he should change his music to maybe sell more next time? Why should he change, he didn't do anything wrong, he did his job very well, just his "customers" didn't do their "job" at all, they prefered to download the album instead of paying for it. One could argue that he targeted the wrong "customers". But in the end that is his problem, the number of paying customers is to small (or the price to low, which I doubt). Oh and about the big and small bands, I agree with you it's not a default. But it's a tendency I've noticed. About copy protection, I don't buy cds with copyprotection on them nor DRM'd files so I don't have to worry about that. I dont think anybody is concerned with copies for personal use. Trust me after 1 time of getting cds stolen from my car I have NEVER had a non-cdr in there again. Why do they bother me with pitiful copy protection mechanisms then? All my music is ripped to my PC. I stream it all over our house. No one is concerned with that. (I dont think) Obtaining the contents of a cd or dvd without purchasing a legit version is stealing. And it does hurt the artists. Jup, I do. First, copyright infringement is not theft. Second, as said before, there are cases in which obtaining the contents of a cd without purchasing it is legal and thereby definitely not theft. Is anyone disputing THAT? ...some how I feel like I lost track about the real topic of the discussion Jonas edit: Just a moderator reminder - Don't offer solutions to how to download without uploading. GMC doesn't support illegal filesharing. Uhm, but according to most jurisdictions it would be legal filesharing then
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Apr 15 2009, 08:20 AM |
Uhm, but according to most jurisdictions it would be legal filesharing then Moderation remark: I want to take the opportunity to say that moderator reminders are not up for funny remarks or questioning. Our intention in such case is only to inform about a discussion getting out of hand, or like in this case to let everyone know what would be a violation of GMC rules to avoid for someone breaking them. Just look at these remarks as information, not part of the discussion, so don't question or discuss them in public since it's not a contribution to a discussion. /Micke on behalf of the moderation team -------------------- My bands homepage
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Apr 15 2009, 10:07 AM |
I also don't see any problem of making copies for PRIVATE use, I copy my music to my computers, to my ipod, and to cdrs in my car, no problem with that, the problem starts when you give away those copies or the music itself to others, no matter if you agree or not, this IS harming the artist! And those copies should be made of something that you actually bought before of course...
About filesharing in general (and I absolutely agree with the moderators, this should definitely not turn into a topic about how to download anything), no matter if somebody finds a "legal" way to download something or not, NO band that records and releases albums wants this. If a band wants to spread its music for free, why should it record an album then? They could put all their music on theit homepage for free and everybody would be happy, fine, but albums are for sale, not presents. -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
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Apr 15 2009, 11:57 AM |
... Trent Reznor(Nine Inch Nails) - Free songs / albums on his website + he spreads 400GB(!) high defintion live material to his fans + albums with cc-license ... WRT cc - music industry contracts tend to be very restrictive and may not allow for any creative commons licensing. The contracts rarely give the musician any real control over the distribution and marketing of their material. Some big name musicians put up material like this in contravention of their contract. Don't know about Trent here but Public Enemy, for instance, did so when they were in dispute with their old record label. A similar situation exists in book/manuscript publishing. I put the majority of my academic publications out via cc. but many commercial publisher contracts explicitly forbid this. TBH as an author publishing contracts tend to be very one sided in favor of the publisher and not the author. Just like music industry contracts . -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Apr 15 2009, 02:05 PM
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What do you mean by "best buy"? cheapest buy / second hand buy?
As I said, don't get me wrong, I paid for the music I like. |
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Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM |
I have to say that I don't know Eisbrecher at all and I am also not really familiar with Nine Inch Nails / Reznor, but I seriously doubt that any of them go to the studio, record a new album (and pay studio, producer, cover, mastering...) just to give it away as a free present on their web page. Many bands put live recordings online, we did this too, when we recorded "Live" the original idea was to release it as a tripple cd, the regular 2 cd's plus a third one with outtakes, but Virgin only wanted to release the 2 disc version, so we put the outtakes online.
And as Tony pointed out, not every band is allowed to do this anyway, record deals can be very restrictive about such things. -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
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Apr 15 2009, 09:35 PM |
See, this is the problem I am talking about, when somebody thinks you are weird because you actually pay for a cd then something is VERY wrong...
About the outtakes, we had them online on our homepage back when "Live" was released, but I guess it is not online there anymore. I know I still have it somewhere, I just don't know where -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
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