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post May 23 2008, 07:57 PM
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Ok so my fretboard is absolutely filthy laugh.gif laugh.gif And i havent had it long - at leat that proves i been practicing hard right? tongue.gif

Ideally id like to take all the strings off and clean the freatboard with some wipes, and around the pickup area where the dust settles.

In reality I know you shouldnt just take all the strings off as the neck is under tension.....

So my question is to all you lovely gmc gear geeks, whats the best way to go about cleaning?


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post May 23 2008, 08:04 PM
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Ditto

Absolutely have the exact same question. I am sitting here with Fretboard conditioning asking myself.....do i apply this over the strings? Will that hurt the strings? Do I take the strings off? I feel like a youngling ready to ask master Yoda how to turn on his lightsaber.

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post May 23 2008, 08:08 PM
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

I read in the Ibanez prestige book you could cock up the inotation or the neck or something if you take all the strings off, so im baffled ! huh.gif


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post May 23 2008, 08:16 PM
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Well I don't know about that particular guitar , but you should not have problems taking off all strings and cleaning the instrument..Truss rod will get back in its position when you reinstall new strings..


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post May 23 2008, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 23 2008, 02:08 PM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I read in the Ibanez prestige book you could cock up the inotation or the neck or something if you take all the strings off, so im baffled ! huh.gif


Hey Matt, I have taken all of mine off on another guitar that I don't use often and did'nt seem to hurt anything. Conditioned and cleaned the fretboard with lemon oil and restrung. Seems to be fine. If you think about it, the truss rod is maintaining the posture of the neck. You see them for sell all the time with no strings. Hopefully sombody more in the know will chime in.

By the way,off subject, caught any fish lately?


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post May 23 2008, 08:24 PM
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Cool thanks for the input guys - I will just take em all of then ! smile.gif Lemon Oil, is that literally oil of Lemon? laugh.gif laugh.gif


No no fish for me, i went on a fishing date last week and didnt get a nibble unsure.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post May 23 2008, 08:26 PM
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what you do is you leave the strings on and give it a dip in the good old bath laugh.gif

but honestly, i thought you could take all the strings off without breaking your guitar? i just swapsied my tc-90 for a rg2570e (couldnt resist!! it was just up for swaps and all!) anyway, the booklet dont say anything about if you take all the strings off the guitar breaks. Infact it says "Loosen the string stopper bolt of the locking-nut, completely loosen the string at the tuning machine, use an allen wrench to loosen the string stopper bold of the bridge saddle, and remove the old string. etc etc" so yeah i think itll be fine.
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post May 23 2008, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 23 2008, 02:24 PM) *
Cool thanks for the input guys - I will just take em all of then ! smile.gif Lemon Oil, is that literally oil of Lemon? laugh.gif laugh.gif


No no fish for me, i went on a fishing date last week and didnt get a nibble unsure.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Best I've found.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dun...-Oil?sku=425264

Not even a bite? sad.gif man, you gotta find some new spots! wink.gif


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post May 23 2008, 08:39 PM
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all my guitars I take all the strings off, when cleaning, when changing strings, never once had a problem mate smile.gif


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post May 23 2008, 08:40 PM
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I've never had problems taking all the strings off!
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This is very encouraging! Im going to order some new strings and some wipes smile.gif


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post May 23 2008, 10:17 PM
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free to take all the strings off no problem in that


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post May 23 2008, 10:21 PM
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Me too are taking the strings all at once. Never heard anyone that I know had problems with the neck.


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post May 23 2008, 10:49 PM
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Next question!!


I know my PGM is set up for 9's but which one of these do I go for?


http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/products/67...ie_ball_slinkys


Hybrids? I wish there was a Guitar tech in my area!!


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post May 23 2008, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 24 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Next question!!


I know my PGM is set up for 9's but which one of these do I go for?


http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/products/67...ie_ball_slinkys


Hybrids? I wish there was a Guitar tech in my area!!


I believe the standard 9's are 9 - 42, that would be the super slinky, the hybrid slinky is a mix of 9 and 10 set, as you can notice if you check those gauges 9 and 10.


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post May 23 2008, 11:27 PM
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Tuubsu is spot on mate, personally I use a straight set of 9`s (9-42) , I dont really like the hybrid sets, just what I`m used to I guess, I`d have thought that your guitar would have been set up with a standard set of 9`s also, so there may be some tweaking required if you go for the Hybrids.


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post May 24 2008, 12:43 AM
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I take all of the strings off my guitars when I do the change specifically so I can do a good job cleaning it up while they're off. One of them is 24 years old and the other's around 10. No problems that I can find.

I wouldn't think it's a good idea to keep the strings off for a long time but short periods I think are OK.


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post May 24 2008, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (Tuubsu @ May 23 2008, 11:11 PM) *
I believe the standard 9's are 9 - 42, that would be the super slinky, the hybrid slinky is a mix of 9 and 10 set, as you can notice if you check those gauges 9 and 10.


Spot on Tuubsu,Smells and Scott!!

I wanted to to be sure because I know its set up for a specific size. Right id better place my order with Mr ball laugh.gif


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post May 24 2008, 03:27 PM
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I use ernie ball strings too, they are very good smile.gif But I don't recommend trying out my gauge smile.gif

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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 24 2008, 03:19 AM) *
I wanted to to be sure because I know its set up for a specific size. Right id better place my order with Mr ball laugh.gif


I use Ernie Ball 9's. I didn't know what my guitars were set up for when I got them. Gonna try 10's on my next change and see if I have to get them set up again or not.


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