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post Jun 1 2008, 07:58 PM
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I am somewhat decent on piano, however my theory is not perfect at all, i played for about 10 years but by ear only i would love to give some lessons but i fear my lack of theory would impact on this. Anyway having some basic knownlegde about piano is really helpfull, specially when creating tracks you can add bass, piano(offcourse) and even drums.


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post Jun 1 2008, 08:08 PM
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I would really love to know how to create good power metal rythm on keyboard


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post Jun 1 2008, 08:17 PM
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Some stuff like the keyboard out of dream theater songs and not just piano would be really good as well.
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post Jun 1 2008, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jun 1 2008, 08:27 PM) *
Okay, please feel free to come with suggestions on how to do them, that will do nothing but improve my future lessons. Here's what I've thought about.

First, how to hold hands, how to position oneself for maximum fluidity and accessability. Then I'm going to explain how the notes are distributed on the piano. Then explain what the pedals do, how the piano is constructed. Then just go for chords, how to structure them. Then show a few simple shapes and teach a simple song.

The next lesson would be all about fingering because there's nothing that will limit your playing more than bad fingering doing that over a nice little etude.

Then I'd show chords in the right hand and simple bass slings in the left. What to think about etc. Then the rest will come naturally.

These first lessons would have to be one on one. Then I'd make a more complicated lesson, for those who already got the basics down.

what do you guys think?


I think all the best about your idea. The layout of the lesson seems perfect for beginners. Now mu suggestion is to start simple lessons and have a good video and audio quality etc in order to get your lesson accepted.


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post Jun 1 2008, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jun 1 2008, 09:44 PM) *
I think all the best about your idea. The layout of the lesson seems perfect for beginners. Now mu suggestion is to start simple lessons and have a good video and audio quality etc in order to get your lesson accepted.


Yes, that's why I don't wanna get some junk and try it and phail. For me, if you can't do it for real, there's no need to bother.

@ you guys who's asking about keyboard. Sorry guys, I'm not into keyboards really, you can't control the notes the same way you do in a piano. It's also a totally different playing style. I can do some things on it, but I'm an incompetent loser on the keyboard (compared to the piano). So I can't see why I should bother doing lessons for keyboard. It's like asking a classical guitarist do lessons for electric guitar. I still believe that piano lessons would help your "keyboarding" since a lot of the techniques are similar.

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post Jun 1 2008, 08:59 PM
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@ Oxac, heres a video lesson of recording set ups from a few of our instructors.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-less...rding-tutorial/


Would love to see some piano lessons from you!


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post Jun 1 2008, 09:45 PM
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Thank you. That was a very valuable lesson. Sadly enough, I won't be able to do this untill the end of this summer. But I will give it my best shot. Thanks again for all the input.


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post Jun 2 2008, 12:35 AM
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No problem man! You got me worried for a moment there about piano/keyboard differencies in playing technique unsure.gif


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post Jun 2 2008, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (Siggum @ Jun 1 2008, 08:58 PM) *
I am somewhat decent on piano, however my theory is not perfect at all, i played for about 10 years but by ear only i would love to give some lessons but i fear my lack of theory would impact on this. Anyway having some basic knownlegde about piano is really helpfull, specially when creating tracks you can add bass, piano(offcourse) and even drums.

I think you play good,all the uploads you put here on GMC with piano sound great.


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post Jun 2 2008, 08:10 PM
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EDIT- NVM.

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post Jun 3 2008, 01:03 AM
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Piano is cool , but I would like some harmonica lessons smile.gif Don't have idea how to play that instrument smile.gif


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post Jun 3 2008, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (Nemanja Filipovic @ Jun 1 2008, 02:45 PM) *
I agree,the best way to learn and "feel" the music harmony is trough piano,it helped me a lot when it comes to theory and making songs.


I second that. My guitar teacher uses the keyboards as a base point for his theory lessons. It really makes me understand theory better.

Looking forward to the piano lessons. I'm planning on getting a piano and start playing it so some lessons on the basics would be perfect.


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post Jun 3 2008, 10:07 AM
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I guess I have to make a "show off" thing first, so you guys will know what I am capable of. But I think using a piano for theory lessons is wrong for a guitarist.

Knowing the intervals in scales, chords etc. is good, but not enough if you want to make it as a guitarist. You've got to have them in your musclememory and that way if you learn it on the guitar, it will help you more. Because otherwise you might have to think of a piano in your head to be able to play a certain scale... Which is baad.

But I still think it's a nice instrument.


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post Jun 3 2008, 10:48 AM
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I can play keyboard with my feet biggrin.gif. The only instrument I'm actually good at lol biggrin.gif Only problem is I haven't played in 5 or 6 years. I played from 5-18 years old when I picked up guitar sad.gif Maybe I should have stuck with keyboard sad.gif

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post Jun 3 2008, 02:01 PM
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Hi Oxac!

Looks like there is certainly interest in piano lessons - you need to be thinking about the following to ensure success:

Yes, you do need to make a showoff video to show us what you can do, but probably not in the way you are thinking!

Of course you and any other prospective GMC instructor must demonstrate a high level of competence on the instrument in question - but I am sure that is not a problem for you. What might be harder is that Kris is also looking for:

  • High Quality Recording and backing tracks where appropriate
  • High Quality video (usually needs a decent camera and some high quality lighting)
  • Good backup material - tabs, backing tracks, lesson text etc
  • Good Original Lesson Concepts
Again, the last sounds like something you have thought about as well, but those things above are very important, and the best pianist in the world woudn't get to make lessons for GMC if his video was dark and grainy! (Actually, if he was the best pianist in the world, Kris would work with him to get his video up to scratch!)

I'm certainly not trying to discourage you - I would love to see some piano lessons, but I'm trying to make sure that when you get to this stage you are thinking about the whole picture, not just the playing.

One way to dip your toe into this is to make some Student Instructor Lessons - that is a great way of trying out the making of a lesson and seeing what kind of work goes into it, and GMCers can benefit straight away.

Alternatively, if you want to apply straight to Kris with a demo video, bear in mind what I said above and make it as good as you possibly can!


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post Jun 3 2008, 03:59 PM
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Thanks a lot Andrew.

I'm a "perfectionist" so I will definately make sure that the lightning quality is good. Concerning the tab, would that be notation or a tab for guitar?

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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jun 3 2008, 03:59 PM) *
lightning quality is good

You don't need to go that far lol. Lighting would be good enough. Lightning could be deadly biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Jun 3 2008, 04:02 PM) *
You don't need to go that far lol. Lighting would be good enough. Lightning could be deadly biggrin.gif


I don't think thats such a bad idea, a lightning storm in the background might add quite a nice horror movie atmosphere to the lesson. You need to something spooky for your first lesson smile.gif
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post Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM
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O.o a little typing mistake tongue.gifI ment lighting of course.


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jun 3 2008, 06:01 AM) *
  • High Quality Recording and backing tracks where appropriate
  • High Quality video (usually needs a decent camera and some high quality lighting)
  • Good backup material - tabs, backing tracks, lesson text etc
  • Good Original Lesson Concepts


All that sounds good but I never used backing tracks when I played piano I dont know if its really nececary for playing piano IMO since you play chord progresion with left hand and I guess you could call it lead with the right so your kinda playing the backing track on your own if you read the sheet music properly wink.gif

Or For a backing track you could have two backing tracks one for left hand and another for right so when you start a lesson you can play just one hand while having the backing play the other hand so you can get used to the patterns separately


But as for having Piano lesson at GMC I'm totally for it. I acctually made a topic about this a while ago but it didnt spark all that much interest at the time but now its looking pretty good smile.gif
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