 Three Notes Per String Scales, Part 2- Minor scale and modes |
 
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Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM
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Minor Scales
Instead of going over exactly the same process again, which you should be familiar with at this point of the lesson, here I will list the seven 3 notes per string patterns for a minor scale. I'll keep these as general patterns, as you know how to apply them to a scale and also how they fit together. Pattern 1  Pattern 2  Pattern 3  Pattern 4  Pattern 5  Pattern 6  Pattern 7  Wait a minute… You may have noticed that our major and minor scales share the same 7 patterns for 3 notes per string scales patterns. Here it is laid out for comparison:  Modes (for this section you will have to have first read through Andrew's mode lessons found here and here ) So let's recap a few things we've picked up about three notes per string scales; we build patterns starting from each note of a scale - also that the minor scale (Aeolian mode) shares the same patterns as the major scale (Ionian mode). This screams out for us to use the modes to help us remember these patterns! Instead of confusing ourselves with a pattern 1- 7 for each scale, we can instead name each pattern by the name of the mode built of the corresponding degree of the scale. For example, the third mode of the major scale is Phrygian, so we can name the third three notes per string pattern of the major scale the Phrygian shape. If we now move to Aeolian mode, the patterns are offset by 6 positions, so the fifth pattern of the Aeolian mode would also be the Phrygian shape - 5 + 6 = 11, we subtract 8 (since we went into a second octave) and we get 3, meaning the Phrygian shape, since Phrygian is the 3rd mode. Similarly, we can use the Phrygian shape as the second pattern of the Dorian mode (The offset is 2 for Dorian, we are moving up 1 pattern, making 3 (2 + 1), in this case we don't go above the octave so don't need to subtract 8. Now, you see that a little understanding of the modes has allowed us to use just 7 shapes to be able to cover the entire fretboard with all the modes of the major scale. Now we've covered a fair bit of ground in this lesson, so to conclude here is each of the 7 three notes per string patterns named by their corresponding modes. Ionian shape  Dorian shape  Phrygian shape  Lydian shape  Mixolydian shape  Aeolian shape  Locrian shape  That's all for now, take care guys. |
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Jun 19 2008, 03:58 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 03:58 PM
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Great job Deep
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Jun 19 2008, 04:22 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 04:22 PM
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Thumbs up!
 I name the shapes as well, but be careful!  The Dorian shape is giving you the Dorian mode if - and only if - the first note of that shape is the root note. Keep that in mind! Because the Dorian shape is also pattern one in the Ionian mode, and pattern four in the Aolian mode! -------------------- QUOTE ("Steve Vai") Start by playing something - a bend, a riff, a scale, a song - very slowly; if you make a mistake, start over; do this over and over, until you can play it flawlessly - and I do mean flawlessly - many times in a row. Next, gradually increase the tempo. Eventually you'll be flailing like a madman. |
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Jun 19 2008, 06:03 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 06:03 PM
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Very useful man!
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Jun 19 2008, 06:58 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 06:58 PM
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Great lesson man, but I'd like to point out that saying stuff like "locrian figure" makes people think the modes is just a pattern, and not a modulated progression of notes.
Atleast it confused me when I started out
This post has been edited by kjutte: Jun 19 2008, 06:59 PM |
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Jun 19 2008, 10:43 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 10:43 PM
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Group: GMC Senior Posts: 2.700 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK Member No.: 1.374 |
Thanks for your comments guys. Ofcourse- this is no lesson about modes. To avoid confusion and to make sure this lesson adds to previous knowledge (instead of confusing) then i added the links to Andrew's lessons.
The idea is to work down the list of lessons, so this shouldnt do any harm being after the modes lessons. |
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Jan 21 2012, 11:20 PM
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Jan 21 2012, 11:20 PM
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Is the Dorian shape correct? On the high E and B strings?
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Jan 21 2012, 11:29 PM
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Jan 21 2012, 11:29 PM
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Great thread mate! this information is really important for improvising and composing.
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Jan 21 2012, 11:50 PM
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Jan 21 2012, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (EightmanVT @ Jan 21 2012, 11:20 PM)  Is the Dorian shape correct? On the high E and B strings? It isn't  Good spot, the second octave is incorrect . |
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