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post Jun 21 2008, 02:11 PM
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I love it when the instructor lists the tone settings and equipment he is using for the lesson on the text that he writes up at the start of a lesson. Jerry Arcidiacono does this in some of his lessons and I find it really helpful when learning a lesson to get a similar bass, reverb etc.


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post Jun 22 2008, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ Jun 21 2008, 03:11 PM) *
I love it when the instructor lists the tone settings and equipment he is using for the lesson on the text that he writes up at the start of a lesson. Jerry Arcidiacono does this in some of his lessons and I find it really helpful when learning a lesson to get a similar bass, reverb etc.


Agree on that!! Good point Praetorian. Maybe even add the line6 patch (if used) or some of the effect settings for those who don't have line6 (like me biggrin.gif )


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post Jun 23 2008, 07:26 PM
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Hey guys...I also think that for some of you this could be very helpful to know...Personally, I do not get many informations out of this...(this is not meant as criticism) .I mean I don't know much about gear and settings (I want to improve that when I finally buy the toneport line 6 ux 2)...and when I read this informations I always wonder what that says to me how I have to set my marshall Amp to come close to that sound....

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post Jun 23 2008, 08:29 PM
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that would be very cool to know what kinds of effects was used and how it was set..
maybe even the line6 patch.. im using a Vox Tonelab LE so that would be cool as well.. (if anybody else but me use a tonelab)
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post Jun 29 2008, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (Nighthawk @ Jun 23 2008, 08:26 PM) *
when I read this informations I always wonder what that says to me how I have to set my marshall Amp to come close to that sound....


Good point from you. Anyway, you should remember that there are a lot of elements to get a sounds, like pick-ups, woods, string gauge, picks, pre-amps, amps, fx, etc.. and most important, hands.
My Pandora's settings should help members which have this unit, obviously.
If I'm using a Mesa simulation, as example, you can try to use my EQ and gain settings. The sound will be different, because you have a Marshall amp, with a different basic tone. Also, if I'm using some modulation - chorus, flanger, etc - or delay and you don't have those fx, you can't reach the same sound.
Find your own sound is a time consuming activity. You should use settings from other people as example to find your way.


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post Sep 4 2008, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ Jun 21 2008, 03:11 PM) *
I love it when the instructor lists the tone settings and equipment he is using for the lesson on the text that he writes up at the start of a lesson. Jerry Arcidiacono does this in some of his lessons and I find it really helpful when learning a lesson to get a similar bass, reverb etc.


Oh, I'll try to add this to my lessons !!! but now I suppose it would be hard and not too much useful because I record with my big rack...


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post Sep 4 2008, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Sep 4 2008, 02:52 PM) *
Oh, I'll try to add this to my lessons !!! but now I suppose it would be hard and not too much useful because I record with my big rack...


It will still be helpful in dialing in something similar on our equipment (bass, mid, trebble, gain, fx used). It may not sound exactly the same, but will point us in the right direction.
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Totally agree, I value some guide as to the amp mod/eq/effects used, it won't give me the same tone, but at least points me in the right direction smile.gif


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Indeed, I love trying to copy the tone of our great instructors as good as I can using Guitar Rig ^^

The only one I've been able to get close to yet though, is Mr. Siepen, as he has posted a screenshot of his preset tongue.gif


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post Sep 4 2008, 10:45 PM
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mmm I think it would be a great idea that all instructors use the same gear, Pandora, POD or something similar, and I think it would be great if some of this companies (or all !!!) be able to endorser the instructors, and maybe give the site some prices for competitions. Just some thoughts...



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post Sep 4 2008, 11:06 PM
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A couple of days ago I tried different guitar on my "everyday" guitar rig preset. The sound was awful. I think you won't even get the direction by sharing settings unless you have really similar equipment. For example - I am using Marshall amp and you have Messa or similar. Marshal is well known for a very sharp sound (almost no low bottom). I would probably need to put treble on 2 or bellow and my bass and middle on 7 or 8 to get some powerfull solo settings. Try that with Messa and you won't be able to play anything with that sound. The best is to listen and find yourself suitable preset. If the song you're practicing is played with the crunch sound, you obviously won't play it with gain set to 10 etc...


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post Sep 5 2008, 08:21 PM
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I agree with Emir, there are many things involved in sound other than a preset. But I put settings and sometimes even video tutorials for Gearbox in lessons when I can, it can be useful as a guideline.


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post Sep 5 2008, 09:12 PM
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yes, I agree with emir too.
even if you got the settings of a POD xt preset (for example) and you put that settings on a Marshall amps (for example) results will be completly differents. I tried myself that and I dont got good results.
so, I think is cool put our settings for people who got similar gear.

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post Oct 9 2008, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ Sep 5 2008, 01:12 PM) *
yes, I agree with emir too.
even if you got the settings of a POD xt preset (for example) and you put that settings on a Marshall amps (for example) results will be completly differents. I tried myself that and I dont got good results.
so, I think is cool put our settings for people who got similar gear.



Ditto - I am involved in a forum for my Zoom G21.u effects/modeler, and people always complain that the patches that people post don't sound like "XYZ" song - The guitar. amp as well as players technoique all change the sound. I have a Amer Fender Strat Plus and a Gibson Les Paul Standard and the patches sound completely different with all the other variables being identical.

With that said, any settings provided in a lesson should be non make model specific - It is more helpful to know the Amp type, Gain, and Eq settings, and mention of additional effects(Such as slight delay) - Like Kris did on his intial videos(Back when he did them). From there, a GMC should be able to create his own.


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post Oct 9 2008, 11:38 PM
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Yeah instructor tone settings are really good guideline..I always include that information in my lessons..But keep in mind that those settings are approximate , and general "tone" is influenced by so many factors and same settings will never give you the same tone..But they present a good guideline for start , than you should learn how to tweak them in order to sound like the instructor in that particular lesson (if that's your goal).In time with experience you learn how to match different tones and dial the sound you want..


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