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post Jun 8 2006, 11:22 PM
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How important is knowing all the notes on the fret board, and if it is important could someone give me a few pointers on how to learn this.
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post Jun 9 2006, 04:27 AM
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I believe it is pretty important to learn them all.. even though I havn't just yet. I can do only the lowE, A, and high E strings.. the rest I have a harder time and have to count from "hotpoints" that I know. Hotpoints are where I know of a certain note on that string and count from there, other than from the beginning.

It will help in everything guitar to know them.. although personally, I don't think its a huge deal.


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post Jun 9 2006, 07:02 AM
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How important is knowing all the notes on the fret board, and if it is important could someone give me a few pointers on how to learn this.
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It is important - but not nearly as important as fret2fret.com makes you want to believe.

To learn the notes on the fretboard just pick one string and memorise all the notes. Then you will notice it's just the same order for the rest of the strings..

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post Jun 9 2006, 11:53 AM
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I think Fret 2 fret's little flash program is great! Ok he beefs it up a bit but hey he has make loads out of that idea.
All it is is an old memory techinque (think was invented by the ancient greeks) A basic story using familiar famous people's names to represent musical notes. you apply the names to the story. eg A = Arnold shwarzenegger. A being the note of A!
You have to remember this set of notes A,D,G,C,F,A#,D#,G#,C#,F#,B,E,AThe story would follow those notes down the strings except the 5th string were because of the tuning you would need to go back a note.
So 5th fret ,top E string is an A, so follow the pattern down the strings.
So A string would be the note of D, D string would be G, G string would be C,
Now the B string you go back a note, the note following C in the story is F so you go back a note to E which preseeds the not of F and carry the story on from the E note. So bottom E string would be A!
So you get A,D,G,C,E,A, SO THATS THE NOTES FOR ALL THE STRINGS ON THE 5TH FRET. No matter where you are on the fretboard as long as you know your starting note you apply the story and it works.! just remember the B string you go back a note.use this as a ref of the notes in order. A,A#,B,C,C#,D,D#,E,F,F#,G,G#
Hope it makes sense.
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post Jun 9 2006, 01:10 PM
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Yes! Or you could just think of the alphabet A B C D E F G A B C D E F G !

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post Jun 9 2006, 01:13 PM
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you need to remember the sharp notes though and the pattern A,D,G,C,F,A#,D#,G#,C#,F#,B,E,A which is the most important bit. I wrote the sharps on the post so people would know the notes, some people i talk to are not that good on theory and think every note has a sharp or flat.there is no E# or b#
you need to know your sharps when it comes to your b string tuning kink, or am i just stating the obvious.


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post Jun 9 2006, 01:19 PM
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you need to remember the sharp notes though and the pattern A,D,G,C,F,A#,D#,G#,C#,F#,B,E,A which is the most important bit. I wrote the sharps on the post so people would know the notes, some people i talk to are not that good on theory and think every note has a sharp or flat.there is no E# or b#


Yes you are right - any memory pattern you can come up with is useful.

Here is one to remember the name of the strings. Eat Big Gum Die After Eight. It just struck me that one wasn't very good (although I know a good one in Swedish). laugh.gif

Does anybody else know any memory tricks?
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post Jun 9 2006, 01:58 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. But what I am trying to say is how do you know where to go to play a riff in the 1st,2nd, or 3rd position if you do not know where the notes are on the fretboard. There has to be a pattern to do this, or is it just quess work.
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post Jun 9 2006, 09:54 PM
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Just play around with it.. and you will get use to it... The joy of being able to use the whole fretboard to pick out of (IMO), is the ability to play every note either on the low strings or high strings. You can reach so many different feelings with your playing if your able to do so. I learned the basic pentatonic scale on the whole fretboard a while back, and at first, it was tough actually playing with it all and getting it to work right.. but if you keep at it, it will eventually come together. You will be making 1 lick out of 2 or 3 different positions.. or more. haha.

Also.. once you learn it.. you can easily learn the blues scale on the whole fretboard.. just by knowing to add the flat 5th, or the "blues" note.

That is just my take on it though.. I am sure Kris can give more detailed information.


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post Jun 10 2006, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (guitar101)
Thanks for the help guys. But what I am trying to say is how do you know where to go to play a riff in the 1st,2nd, or 3rd position if you do not know where the notes are on the fretboard. There has to be a pattern to do this, or is it just quess work.


If you mean transposing the lick (i.e., changing key) then you can just move the riff up on the neck - unless you have open strings involved.

If you mean playing a riff in the same key on different places on the guitar - then you can usually not keep the same pattern (because of the guitar's non-logical tuning). The best solution in this case is either to use your ears or learn the notes on the fretboard.

Hope it helps,

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