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post Jul 3 2008, 11:31 PM
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Whilst a 7200 spin speed HD would be great a 5400 is not the end of the world unless you do a lot of sample streaming. (I have a laptop that I use as a back up portable music one that has a 5400 spin speed 80 Gb ATA HD and it works fine.) Do however multi-partition the disc - or get the shop to do it for you. It's also always possible to either retrofit a faster internal drive or use an external if you need to at a later date - drives are pretty cheap now a days anyway.

Everything that I've seen of the MBox with PT is good - offers good integration and with PT you can also share files with the more pro quality PT HD - which is used in a lot of studios. PT is a v good sequencer as well. MBox 2 comes with quite a bit of additional software plug-ins which is a bonus.

If you buy it all from the same shop try to get them to give you some free stuff - headphones and a mic maybe smile.gif. Maybe also get them to install and validate that PT works 'out of the box' with the MBox and the Apple OS version you get.

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jul 4 2008, 12:31 AM) *
Whilst a 7200 spin speed HD would be great a 5400 is not the end of the world unless you do a lot of sample streaming. (I have a laptop that I use as a back up portable music one that has a 5400 spin speed 80 Gb ATA HD and it works fine.) Do however multi-partition the disc - or get the shop to do it for you.
If you buy it all from the same shop try to get them to give you some free stuff - headphones and a mic maybe smile.gif. Maybe also get them to install and validate that PT works 'out of the box' with the MBox and the Apple OS version you get.

Cheers,
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What is to multi-partition the disc? If I'm going to get the shop to do it for me there will be some problems as I'm going to order it over the internet, and I don't know if it will be easy to call as I'm going to order it from USA (I have to pay taxes for over 350$ if I'm going to buy it here!) tongue.gif

By the way, is it possible to get Mac-mouses with two buttons now? biggrin.gif

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post Jul 4 2008, 06:15 AM
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It seems like you yourself would prefer to have a mac, so go for mac smile.gif

Multipartitioning a disc means that you "fool" the disc that it is two disc. i.e the C: disc is now C: and D:

This is good especially for production as it lets you have all your mediafiles and projects on the D: disc (which is usually the larger disc) and the OS (Operative System) and programs on the C: disc. If You get a virus or a system crash that makes you have to reformat and reinstall the OS you only have to reformat the C partition and your projects are safe.



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post Jul 4 2008, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (IDontWantMyUsername @ Jul 4 2008, 12:43 AM) *
What is to multi-partition the disc? If I'm going to get the shop to do it for me there will be some problems as I'm going to order it over the internet, and I don't know if it will be easy to call as I'm going to order it from USA (I have to pay taxes for over 350$ if I'm going to buy it here!) tongue.gif

By the way, is it possible to get Mac-mouses with two buttons now? biggrin.gif


Mac-mouses all have two buttons now, it just seems one button.
You just press on the left side or right side of the mouse.

BTW, if I look at the online Apple store I get the option to put in a 7200 rpm 200GB hard drive, it costs € 90 extra. My experience is that you should call the number on the Apple website to order an ask for a discount, I always got at least a € 100 discount rolleyes.gif or an upgrade (like this hard drive or a better graphics card)


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@ Javari: Are you serious? Can I just call them and ask for an upgrade and I'll get it free?! blink.gif
And when you say you have the option to put in a 7200RPM Hard Drive, is that with a normal MacBook?

@ Koopid: Aha, seems like a good idea smile.gif How much does it cost? tongue.gif


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QUOTE (IDontWantMyUsername @ Jul 4 2008, 10:56 AM) *
@ Javari: Are you serious? Can I just call them and ask for an upgrade and I'll get it free?! blink.gif
And when you say you have the option to put in a 7200RPM Hard Drive, is that with a normal MacBook?

@ Koopid: Aha, seems like a good idea smile.gif How much does it cost? tongue.gif


Well, a bought a MacPro recently and got a € 150 discount of the price on the site, I don't remember exactly how much discount I got on my MacBook Pro.

I just say to them that I can buy the same thing at a reseller and ask them how they can make it atractive for me to buy with them.
I've bought about 5 or 6 Macs this way and it has always worked, in fact the first time the gave me the discount without asking...

You're right about the HD, the faster one is only on the MacBook Pro, not on the Macbook.
I wouldn't worry about that to much. I have never put a 7200 rpm HD in a laptop because I'm afraid that the extra heat wich is generated by a faster drive will cause it to fail quicker. Notebook HD are a bit more fragile than normal ones, everything is smaller and the computer gets quite hot.


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QUOTE (javari @ Jul 4 2008, 12:15 PM) *
Well, a bought a MacPro recently and got a € 150 discount of the price on the site, I don't remember exactly how much discount I got on my MacBook Pro.

I just say to them that I can buy the same thing at a reseller and ask them how they can make it atractive for me to buy with them.
I've bought about 5 or 6 Macs this way and it has always worked, in fact the first time the gave me the discount without asking...

You're right about the HD, the faster one is only on the MacBook Pro, not on the Macbook.
I wouldn't worry about that to much. I have never put a 7200 rpm HD in a laptop because I'm afraid that the extra heat wich is generated by a faster drive will cause it to fail quicker. Notebook HD are a bit more fragile than normal ones, everything is smaller and the computer gets quite hot.


So you think I can get a discount that easy? Do you think they'll just blow me off if they hear that I'm not from the US?
By the way, I was at a computer store today, and one of the people there said that it would be better with an integrated soundcard because it would go too slow with an external one tongue.gif blink.gif


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post Jul 4 2008, 11:33 AM
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You can't really work in DAW properly with integrated card, you must get an external one. SO cheap integrated is all you need really. You will barely use it.


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jul 4 2008, 12:33 PM) *
You can't really work in DAW properly with integrated card, you must get an external one. SO cheap integrated is all you need really. You will barely use it.


Ok, I think I will stick with your opinion smile.gif


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post Jul 4 2008, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (IDontWantMyUsername @ Jul 4 2008, 11:31 AM) *
So you think I can get a discount that easy? Do you think they'll just blow me off if they hear that I'm not from the US?
By the way, I was at a computer store today, and one of the people there said that it would be better with an integrated soundcard because it would go too slow with an external one tongue.gif blink.gif


Well, you're a customer aren't you?
I don't think they care where you're from. Why do you want to buy in the US?
Sometimes, if you do the calculations, it isn't that much cheaper. You have to pay shipment, tax and you'll have to check how the warranty works. They probably make you buy Applecare to get international warranty, thats another couple of hunderd euro's.

If you don't want to buy in you home country, why don't you buy in antother European country?
Norway isn't part of the EU right? That's a shame (only in this case... dry.gif otherwise it's pretty smart)


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QUOTE (javari @ Jul 4 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Well, you're a customer aren't you?
I don't think they care where you're from. Why do you want to buy in the US?
Sometimes, if you do the calculations, it isn't that much cheaper. You have to pay shipment, tax and you'll have to check how the warranty works. They probably make you buy Applecare to get international warranty, thats another couple of hunderd euro's.

If you don't want to buy in you home country, why don't you buy in antother European country?
Norway isn't part of the EU right? That's a shame (only in this case... dry.gif otherwise it's pretty smart)


I'm going on vacation to USA, so my plan was that I'd ask some of the people we would be living at to order it to themselves, and then I could have it when I came to them and pay them what it cost tongue.gif

I know it's not always very beneficial that we are outside the EU, but I'm still happy we're not in for other reasons smile.gif


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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jul 3 2008, 12:57 AM) *
Pre Win95 - heck now I fell old ohmy.gif !

10-point star screwdrivers for the win imho - one of my fav essential tools biggrin.gif . I still believe that if something can be put together it can be taken apart, fiddled with and reassembled smile.gif - doesn't always work well with heat sealed plastic clams or plastic hinges though . laugh.gif

Once had a boss who took a brand new, very expensive, electron beam gun to bits fresh out of the box without waiting for the company's engineer to install. He dropped it, couldn't get it together again, so he reboxed it, sealed up the container and played innocent when the engineer arrived to install it rolleyes.gif .

Biggest and most expensive thing I've ever brutalised though was a quadrapole mass spectrometer back in the early 1990s (about 250 UK Sterling new then). We wanted but couldn't afford a new HPLC/MS/MS so did it ourselves. Lots of fun though I remember it was a bit of a pig working out the internal geometry to get the right place to drill out the casing. It did work though cool.gif .

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WOwo you work in very advanced fields ohmy.gif

I can see the look on the engineer's face, like "This is a real mess! Has anyone touched this?" and everyone suddenly had something to do biggrin.gif I would have blamed the shipping biggrin.gif
By the way I'd be scared of taking apart such things.... I'm already worried about taking my amplifier apart because I'm scared of those mighty condensers... And that biiiiig warning sticker "do not disassemble" biggrin.gif
A spectrometer! Aren't those thingies for seeing what chemicals are on stuff? Nice biggrin.gif and an electron beam gun? Aren't they used in CRT monitors? Your work sounds fun smile.gif
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One thing I started wondering about is the PODxt, does it have drivers for Mac?


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fast google search output:

What does the USB port do?

The USB port allows direct digital recording from your PODXT or PODXT Pro™ to your Mac® or PC, plus the ability to use PODXT Pro to play back audio from your computer like a soundcard. It also allows you to perform software updates and communicate with MIDI applications such as the Line 6 Monkey intelligent updater, Line 6 Edit™ and GuitarPort® without a MIDI interface – only a USB connection is required.

In order for your computer to be able to communicate with your PODXT or PODXT Pro over USB, you will need to install USB driver software.

Windows® and OS X® users: click here to get the Line 6 Monkey intelligent updater application, which allows you to install the latest drivers.


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QUOTE (Freebird @ Jul 5 2008, 01:44 AM) *
fast google search output:

What does the USB port do?

The USB port allows direct digital recording from your PODXT or PODXT Pro™ to your Mac® or PC, plus the ability to use PODXT Pro to play back audio from your computer like a soundcard. It also allows you to perform software updates and communicate with MIDI applications such as the Line 6 Monkey intelligent updater, Line 6 Edit™ and GuitarPort® without a MIDI interface – only a USB connection is required.

In order for your computer to be able to communicate with your PODXT or PODXT Pro over USB, you will need to install USB driver software.

Windows® and OS X® users: click here to get the Line 6 Monkey intelligent updater application, which allows you to install the latest drivers.


Yes it does smile.gif


Ok, thank you very much smile.gif


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QUOTE (IDontWantMyUsername @ Jul 4 2008, 11:56 AM) *
@ Javari: Are you serious? Can I just call them and ask for an upgrade and I'll get it free?! blink.gif
And when you say you have the option to put in a 7200RPM Hard Drive, is that with a normal MacBook?

@ Koopid: Aha, seems like a good idea smile.gif How much does it cost? tongue.gif


I dont know what it costs. I only bought Dell's latelly and they dont charge for it since I order my setups by phone. Call your retailer and ask them. It shouldnt be to much unless the computer is already set up when you order it.


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Will it be more expensive getting it done after I've got the Mac than if I get it done before it's set up? blink.gif


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QUOTE (Freebird @ Jul 4 2008, 09:31 PM) *
WOwo you work in very advanced fields ohmy.gif

I can see the look on the engineer's face, like "This is a real mess! Has anyone touched this?" and everyone suddenly had something to do biggrin.gif I would have blamed the shipping biggrin.gif
By the way I'd be scared of taking apart such things.... I'm already worried about taking my amplifier apart because I'm scared of those mighty condensers... And that biiiiig warning sticker "do not disassemble" biggrin.gif
A spectrometer! Aren't those thingies for seeing what chemicals are on stuff? Nice biggrin.gif and an electron beam gun? Aren't they used in CRT monitors? Your work sounds fun smile.gif


Used to work as a specialist in chemical analysis Freebird - mainly ultra low (ie sub parts per trillion) pesticide and forensics analysis . Mass spectrometry I did was all about forcing the chemical to fall apart in a controlled manner so that I could then detect and identify the constituent parts and from that work backwards to reassemble and identify the original. Computers can take a pretty good guesstimate at what the original chemical was but the software algorythms aren't perfect - so we always did a manual ID on unknowns. On national ID blind checks the good algos would generally get a 85% correct ID - over 4 years I drifted between 95- 100% smile.gif (one 95% and 15 100% scores) .

The beam gun was for different work - did some research work on novel intermetallic compounds - the way I made them was to use a beam gun to ablate them under vacuum. Basically you hit the metals with high energy electrons which vapourise them in seconds. You then then redeposit and recondense them in a controlled manner as a novel amalgam. Lots of fun - especially knowing that you can vapourise a lump of metal in a few seconds - very science fiction cool.gif .

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