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post Jul 6 2008, 04:31 PM
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Ok, I hear many doing chords, and doing cool mute rhythm stuff in between.
Thing is, I know how to do it, but I keep getting harmonics when I do, which makes it shitty sounding.
How do I do this right?

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post Jul 6 2008, 08:06 PM
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Sometimes me too have problem with muting the strings on positions where the harmonics are, but it is rare that this kind of muting will produce shitty sounding by itself, and spoil my sound. Shitty sounding rhythm moslty comes from not practicing the part good enough. When I do have problematic part to play in that case I practice it and have no troubles with it. I find a position where I can put the fingers and not hear (that much) audible harmonics.
When muting the strings you must be able to really tightly mute every string that is not supposed to be ringing, and always on the same place. I usually accomplish this by slowing the part down to 40bpm and starting to scratch 16th notes, and going up the tempo. I watch closely for muting and as soon as I see that something is wrong and I can hear some strings ringing I stop and do it all over again eve slower. It happens that one string just has to ring because my left hand fingers are on acquard position for better muting but that doesn't make the overall sound of the rhythm shitty. In some cases even, I use the harmonics as the part of the sound.


If you wanna give me a sample of your playing that contains problematic part I will be glad to help.

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post Jul 6 2008, 08:55 PM
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Am I supposed to mute with both left hand AND palm btw?
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post Jul 6 2008, 11:02 PM
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You should use the right hand here. It is good, but sounds sloppy and not tight because you are brushing the strings with the pick instead of giving them a nice clean tight strumm. They must ring like you strumm them all at once, try to play like that and with some attitude. They way I see it, you just need to slow it down a little and play it more precise while counting the beats.

Here's a little sample that I played, sorry for the crappy sound I just plugged&play. Keep an eye on the right hand and see what I mean. Tightly executed, and in the groove, not brushing the strings. First on slower tempos to get the hang of it, but always tight with the right hand. A

Lso in the secodn part you can see the same stuff played on A D G strings, and check out the right hand here, you will see how it palm mutes up and down. When you practice it at slower tempos, it will sound good fast too. Don't rush it take your time and it will sound great. Add just a bit more drive to your preset and you'll do great.

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post Jul 7 2008, 12:05 AM
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What do you mean by brushing strings? I am picking them hard, but up and down. I don't think I understand what you mean..

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post Jul 7 2008, 12:33 AM
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By brushing I mean playing them in sequence up and down. I can hear individual strings, for example I can hear, E D A individually. The goal is to strumm them fast and tight and make them sound like you played them all at once, if you know what I mean.


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post Jul 12 2008, 10:03 AM
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I think this is the right topic ... unsure.gif

Is it possible that you can do some more lessons in "muting"? Your lessons "Basics Of Muting" helped me and my tone a lot, but I think (and you said it), it is more on beginner level. Maybe intermediate and advanced muting? laugh.gif


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post Jul 12 2008, 12:23 PM
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The thing is Nazgul, I can try to do another lessons about muting, but the very basic concepts of muting are explained in that lesson and can be applicable to most exercises when playing. Muting is not exactly something to put in beginner/intermediate/advanced categories, - either you do it all the time or you don't. So during practice if you mute (with all of these techniques that I have shown) you can really improve your tone.

But if you do have a specific problem with muting some sequence or anything that you need help about, post it here and I will be glad to answer it with a video response on how to play it.

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post Jul 12 2008, 12:37 PM
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Okay, no problem. Well, dumb question. rolleyes.gif wink.gif

At the moment I'm glad that I have no problems with muting but they will sure appear. Hopefully I'll be able to post them here.


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post Jul 12 2008, 05:42 PM
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It's a good question mate, don't worry. smile.gif

If you do find it difficult to mute at one point, I'll be glad to do a video request to help with that current situation. Cheers mate smile.gif


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post Aug 17 2008, 10:57 PM
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very nicely explained bogdan, I have one thing I'd like to add though. Practise fretting and picking without muting as well. Really aim to pick cleanly and fret only the string(s) you want to fret. Sometimes muting is the only and/or best way BUT! accuracy is even more important, especially at speed.


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post Aug 18 2008, 12:16 AM
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You mean Ivan, not Bogdan? biggrin.gif


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