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post Jul 10 2008, 02:19 PM
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Here we had to learn German from3 grade of elementary school. I still remember a few things oddly, like wo wonst du, or wi heist du (don't know if I spelled it correctly) laugh.gif


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post Jul 10 2008, 07:09 PM
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As with anything in life, some people have certain abilities that make them learn a languange more rapidly. I am a Spanish native speaker and I learnt English because I had to. But one thing is for sure: I know nothing about grammatical rules, not even in Spanish! biggrin.gif So I agree that in the end of the day, and unless you are really smart, the only way to develop fluency in a different language is by actually living for some time in a country where that language is spoken. You are just forced to be learning 24x7 you know. Travelling a lot also helps.


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post Jul 10 2008, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (JuanMV @ Jul 10 2008, 07:09 PM) *
As with anything in life, some people have certain abilities that make them learn a languange more rapidly. I am a Spanish native speaker and I learnt English because I had to. But one thing is for sure: I know nothing about grammatical rules, not even in Spanish! biggrin.gif So I agree that in the end of the day, and unless you are really smart, the only way to develop fluency in a different language is by actually living for some time in a country where that language is spoken. You are just forced to be learning 24x7 you know. Travelling a lot also helps.


Aye, Spanish grammar isn't that bad anyway. The only thing that was a bit confusing at first was the subjunctive mood, because we don't use that at all in English, well we do, but we don't change anything in the sentence when we used the subjunctive mood. After a bit of study, it made sense, and the rest, grammar wise, has been pretty easy.


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post Jul 10 2008, 09:27 PM
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I tried to learn it once , didn't go well (I survived 3 days on the course before quiting) smile.gif


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post Jul 10 2008, 10:16 PM
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Haha English for me was very easy to learn. Its very easy to grasp. Wanna know how I learned English in a fluent matter? Watch a lot of HBO the day we first got cable when I was 8. I didn't actually started speaking English till I moved in America when I was 13 though.

I also grew up in Philippines which had over 50 different languages aside from Tagalog.


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post Jul 10 2008, 10:21 PM
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Everybody here in America who are native speakers say that English is by far the hardest language to learn, but all of you guys say it was simple, and you guys speak English very well. (Or at least type it well. biggrin.gif) Its mostly foreign language teachers who say that so I suppose that it is only threats. laugh.gif

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post Jul 10 2008, 10:31 PM
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post Jul 10 2008, 10:45 PM
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Norwegian and German both inherit from an old language called germanic or something.. So in 9th grade I managed to translate an entire page of german into norwegian from the 9th grade german book without ever being in a german class. We start learning a third language in 8th grade, I chose French and I can't understand anything french! I bet that text was really easy though, but it just shows how related languages are always easier to learn. I learned English pretty easy too, maybe because of a lot of English words come from the Norwegian vikings.
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post Jul 10 2008, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jul 10 2008, 03:19 PM) *
Here we had to learn German from3 grade of elementary school. I still remember a few things oddly, like wo wonst du, or wi heist du (don't know if I spelled it correctly) laugh.gif

Not bad Ivan I'm impressed biggrin.gif Almost right wo woHnst du, wiE heisst du
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post Jul 10 2008, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (IDontWantMyUsername @ Jul 10 2008, 04:16 AM) *
What? blink.gif Have you had Spanish or anything like that then? You do at least have to learn one additional language apart from English and Norwegian, don't you? I'm starting at VGS now this autumn, and as far as I've understood, I will have to take German classes... huh.gif

Nothing besides Norwegian and English... But I've been on electro for two years, so maybe some foreign language comes to bite my ass when I start Allmenn Påbygning next year tongue.gif


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post Jul 10 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Jul 10 2008, 04:54 PM) *
Aye, Spanish grammar isn't that bad anyway. The only thing that was a bit confusing at first was the subjunctive mood, because we don't use that at all in English, well we do, but we don't change anything in the sentence when we used the subjunctive mood. After a bit of study, it made sense, and the rest, grammar wise, has been pretty easy.


Shell, you are way beyond me with all that stuff man... honestly, I don't know what you are talking about. You probably know more Spanish grammar than me! laugh.gif I know, I shouldn't be laughing, but I would say that I'm the kind of guy that likes to learn things "empirically", and this is why I'm so addicted to GMC right now... because I can empirically learn how to play guitar...
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post Jul 11 2008, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE (JuanMV @ Jul 10 2008, 11:41 PM) *
Shell, you are way beyond me with all that stuff man... honestly, I don't know what you are talking about. You probably know more Spanish grammar than me! laugh.gif I know, I shouldn't be laughing, but I would say that I'm the kind of guy that likes to learn things "empirically", and this is why I'm so addicted to GMC right now... because I can empirically learn how to play guitar...


Ha, it is ok, see like subjunctive is...

Espero que tengas dinero.

The first "espero" is in the indicative. It is a definite FACT that I hope that you have money. However "tengas" shows that you may or may not have money, I don't know, the only thing that is FACT is that I hope you have money. Subjunctive mood is when the speaker or whatever assumes something of another person or something like that, but it may or may not be true. Like "Espero que" "Quiero que" etc.

And of course formal commands always use the subjunctive..

QUOTE (swingline @ Jul 10 2008, 10:21 PM) *
Everybody here in America who are native speakers say that English is by far the hardest language to learn, but all of you guys say it was simple, and you guys speak English very well. (Or at least type it well. biggrin.gif) Its mostly foreign language teachers who say that so I suppose that it is only threats. laugh.gif


Well reading and writing a foreign language is nothing compared to communicating and comprehending with native speakers in real life, who are probably going to be speaking extremely fast, without stopping, and using idiomatic speech. I can read and write Spanish very well, but throw me in with some native Spanish speakers and I struggle for real.

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post Jul 11 2008, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Jul 10 2008, 09:18 PM) *
Ha, it is ok, see like subjunctive is...

Espero que tengas dinero.


En eso estamos de acuerdo Shell! Yo tambien espero tener mucho dinero algun dia... laugh.gif wink.gif
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post Jul 11 2008, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE (JuanMV @ Jul 11 2008, 12:58 AM) *
En eso estamos de acuerdo Shell! Yo tambien espero tener mucho dinero algun dia... laugh.gif wink.gif


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post Jul 11 2008, 07:22 AM
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post Jul 11 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Canis @ Jul 11 2008, 12:20 AM) *
Nothing besides Norwegian and English... But I've been on electro for two years, so maybe some foreign language comes to bite my ass when I start Allmenn Påbygning next year tongue.gif


Jeg er netopp ferdig med påbygning, du trenger ikke flere språk der smile.gif Men så er jo du på den nye reformen da, så det kan ha endra seg..
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QUOTE (erik @ Jul 11 2008, 11:23 AM) *
Jeg er netopp ferdig med påbygning, du trenger ikke flere språk der smile.gif Men så er jo du på den nye reformen da, så det kan ha endra seg..

Nice ^^ Hadde ikke hatt noe imot spansk men... Kanskje som valgfag tongue.gif
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QUOTE (JuanMV @ Jul 11 2008, 01:58 AM) *
En eso estamos de acuerdo Shell! Yo tambien espero tener mucho dinero algun dia... laugh.gif wink.gif




Bueno suerte smile.gif

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QUOTE (chmilew @ Jul 11 2008, 08:10 PM) *
French is easier, I guess.. tongue.gif

Isn't French incredible complex when it comes to grammar? tongue.gif


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