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post Jul 11 2008, 05:44 AM
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Hey all GMC,

As the Topic Title says, my 17th birthday is coming up and I am unsure what to get. Below is the gear I currently have:

*Ibanez RG1570 (stock)
*Line 6 Spider 3 30W
*Jim Dunlop Slash Signature Crybaby Wah
*Jim Dunlop Jazz III's (red ones, though I am trying to find black ones to try)

Anyway, I am fed up with the tone I am getting from my Spider 3, I simply find the channels to be lacking something, and in terms of the distorted tone I am looking for, I find the Metal and Insane channels of the Spider to be hot but fizzy. I am looking for a distorted tone that is hot, but still smooth and that has better sustain then what I am currently working with.

I am not currently and will not likely be gigging in the near future, so I was looking at a multi effect that is extremely versatile, sounds pretty darn good and that I could run before my amp and also directly into my PC for some basic recording.

Some devices I am looking into are:

*POD X3
*POD X3 Live
*Boss GT-10
*Rocktron Utopia G100
*DigiTech GNX-3000

The Line 6 stuff looks good and sounds good (as proven by the staff at GMC), but I can't understand how given that the Spider III and POD X3 both use amp modelling technology, one could be far superior in tonal options and tonal quality. Could someone please explain this to me?

In conclusion, I am simply looking for some advice and information on each of these and other multi effects available on the market, including their recording capabilities, sound and tone quality (including the amp, cab and effects available), ability to be used before my Line 6 Spider 3 30W and how this will sound and just general quality of the product and level of support provided by the company.

Thanks GMC, all input and advice on these and other devices appreciated.

EDIT: I should probably list some of my influences and the sounds I am going for:

*John Petrucci (his crunch but more importantly solo tones from tracks like Lines in the Sand, Trial of Tears, Hollow Years-Live at Budokan, Forsaken, In the Presence of Enemies Part 1, Erotomania, Paradigm Shift etc)
*Joe Satriani (Until We Say Goodbye, Satch Boogie, The Extremist)
*Michael Angelo Batio (No Boundaries, Tribute to Randy)
*Yngwie Malmsteen (Baroque and Roll, Black Star)

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post Jul 11 2008, 10:18 AM
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Boss GT10 is teh best options of all of those.

The fact with the POD and Spider is that POD is a processor and a Spider is a processor with speaker. Guitar speaker always adds more quality to the sound than, say, ordinary speakers. So no matter what you buy you will not improve your tone TOO MUCH.

I would recommend selling the SPider and buying a better hybrid amp, like Randal, and then in the near future thinking about PODX3 Live


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post Jul 11 2008, 10:27 AM
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From that list Boss GT-10...


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post Jul 11 2008, 10:45 AM
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If you only want to play (and record) at home I would recommend guitar rig 3, killer software that offers a whole lot of great sounds and effects.


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post Jul 12 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (Starry Manhattan Rain @ Jul 11 2008, 12:44 AM) *
Hey all GMC,

As the Topic Title says, my 17th birthday is coming up and I am unsure what to get. Below is the gear I currently have:

*Ibanez RG1570 (stock)
*Line 6 Spider 3 30W
*Jim Dunlop Slash Signature Crybaby Wah
*Jim Dunlop Jazz III's (red ones, though I am trying to find black ones to try)

Anyway, I am fed up with the tone I am getting from my Spider 3, I simply find the channels to be lacking something, and in terms of the distorted tone I am looking for, I find the Metal and Insane channels of the Spider to be hot but fizzy. I am looking for a distorted tone that is hot, but still smooth and that has better sustain then what I am currently working with.

I am not currently and will not likely be gigging in the near future, so I was looking at a multi effect that is extremely versatile, sounds pretty darn good and that I could run before my amp and also directly into my PC for some basic recording.

Some devices I am looking into are:

*POD X3
*POD X3 Live
*Boss GT-10
*Rocktron Utopia G100
*DigiTech GNX-3000

The Line 6 stuff looks good and sounds good (as proven by the staff at GMC), but I can't understand how given that the Spider III and POD X3 both use amp modelling technology, one could be far superior in tonal options and tonal quality. Could someone please explain this to me?

In conclusion, I am simply looking for some advice and information on each of these and other multi effects available on the market, including their recording capabilities, sound and tone quality (including the amp, cab and effects available), ability to be used before my Line 6 Spider 3 30W and how this will sound and just general quality of the product and level of support provided by the company.

Thanks GMC, all input and advice on these and other devices appreciated.

EDIT: I should probably list some of my influences and the sounds I am going for:

*John Petrucci (his crunch but more importantly solo tones from tracks like Lines in the Sand, Trial of Tears, Hollow Years-Live at Budokan, Forsaken, In the Presence of Enemies Part 1, Erotomania, Paradigm Shift etc)
*Joe Satriani (Until We Say Goodbye, Satch Boogie, The Extremist)
*Michael Angelo Batio (No Boundaries, Tribute to Randy)
*Yngwie Malmsteen (Baroque and Roll, Black Star)


All right, I have no clue what you should get. but i do have a little obscure piece of advice that kind of puzzled me. I have the line six spider three 15. I tried the thirty at a guitar shop recently, and doesn't sound half as good as the fifteen. I don't know why this is. I can get killer tones from the fifteen with a little tinkering, but no matter what I did with the thirty it would not stop sounding transparent. Maybe somebody more experienced could explain why...please?

Edit: and by the way, there is some fizz on the insane channel, but the metal channel is dead silent.

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post Jul 13 2008, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE (sidewas lightning @ Jul 13 2008, 01:10 AM) *
All right, I have no clue what you should get. but i do have a little obscure piece of advice that kind of puzzled me. I have the line six spider three 15. I tried the thirty at a guitar shop recently, and doesn't sound half as good as the fifteen. I don't know why this is. I can get killer tones from the fifteen with a little tinkering, but no matter what I did with the thirty it would not stop sounding transparent. Maybe somebody more experienced could explain why...please?

Edit: and by the way, there is some fizz on the insane channel, but the metal channel is dead silent.


It's not excess noise I'm referring to necessarily, it's the distorted tone which isn't full and smooth like a tube amp. I'm looking for a really good quality distorted tone (ala John Petrucci's tone on Erotomania and Trial of Tears) and am wondering whether buying a BOSS GT-10 or Line 6 POD X3 and running it directly into my computer could replicate this, even remotely.


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post Jul 14 2008, 06:24 PM
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I would suggest getting a new amp, the BOSS GT-10 and the POD for you birthday(If you can get that much). Marshalls' and Randals' are pretty good and you could probably get more tones out of it than your line 6.

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post Jul 14 2008, 06:26 PM
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Sorry for stealing the thread, but I have a Randal amp, so would a Pod X3 Live sound decent through it? smile.gif


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post Jul 14 2008, 10:20 PM
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Yes it would, it would sound decent, but nothing above that...


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post Jul 14 2008, 10:43 PM
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i suggest GT10 from Boss.


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