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gnrrock
post Jul 14 2008, 05:02 AM
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Whenever I'm trying to improvise it always seems like I'm stuck in the same pentatonic, major or minor shaped box dry.gif

How should i go about practicing so that i can learn to move all along the fret board? Are there like any scales that i should practice?
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post Jul 14 2008, 05:22 AM
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Here is what you need!

I am practicing this one:

Pentatonic Scale One-on-One Lesson


(Sorry, I really linked to my bookmark entry... now I learned how to do it! tongue.gif )

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post Jul 14 2008, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE (Xicoria @ Jul 13 2008, 09:22 PM) *
Here is what you need!

I am practicing this one:

Pentatonic Scale One-on-One Lesson


It redirects strait back to this page, I think its because you tried to link to your bookmarks which results in an error.


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post Jul 14 2008, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (gnrrock @ Jul 14 2008, 06:02 AM) *
Whenever I'm trying to improvise it always seems like I'm stuck in the same pentatonic, major or minor shaped box dry.gif

How should i go about practicing so that i can learn to move all along the fret board? Are there like any scales that i should practice?

Dude, that's the same thing I had.. the pentatonic lesson level 2 from kristofer dahl does the trick. I always knew 1 box but he makes you learn all 5!!! So now I can go up and down the neck, while still playing in key! Just check that lesson, learn the scales and improvise to the backingtrack!


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post Jul 14 2008, 10:05 AM
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Kris made one or two lessons on "Breaking out of the box", I can't name them though


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post Jul 14 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (gnrrock @ Jul 14 2008, 06:02 AM) *
Whenever I'm trying to improvise it always seems like I'm stuck in the same pentatonic, major or minor shaped box dry.gif

How should i go about practicing so that i can learn to move all along the fret board? Are there like any scales that i should practice?


Well, everyone has this problem. The first step you should take is learning alot of linear licks, and also licks in every modal box.

To totally free oneself of the box, you need a good ear, and lots of experience. One way to improve this is to start thinking fretboard notes isntead of patterns. This is a huge challenge, but by far the best way to get unlocked.

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Dude, that's the same thing I had.. the pentatonic lesson level 2 from kristofer dahl does the trick. I always knew 1 box but he makes you learn all 5!!! So now I can go up and down the neck, while still playing in key! Just check that lesson, learn the scales and improvise to the backingtrack!


Technically those are also boxes buddy.
But again, you got 5 penta boxes, and 7 major boxes. 7 harmonic minor and 7 melodic minor too, but this really doesn't help you much against being free. If you're thinking patterns isntead of sound, you'll still be locked to the modal shapes you know most licks in, instead of being free.
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post Jul 14 2008, 12:53 PM
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I am posting againg the link to Kris Pentatonic Shifting class... I am not really sure if my edition works.


Pentatonic Shifting

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post Jul 14 2008, 05:37 PM
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Patterns! biggrin.gif

Licks! biggrin.gif

Arpeggios! biggrin.gif

The best way of starting to break out is playing patterns.
Patterns are like small repeating melodies inside of a shape.


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post Jul 14 2008, 08:36 PM
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when you do exercises on the guitar for an hour or more try to use those exercises in a jam. For example if you learn a particular lesson in GMC then try to jam over a BT and play the lick of this lesson or try to find your own licks based o this lesson (for example changing few notes or changing minor to major, etc.)


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post Jul 14 2008, 09:19 PM
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Check this out, and in the main video text another link to similar lesson.


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