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post Jul 22 2008, 04:12 PM
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Hello Gmc!

Recently i have set a goal to learn important scales in and out (modes, harmonic minor, pentatonics). This means i want to learn them in every key and where the notes are across the entire fretboard. I just had one quick question... Would it be better to start with the key of A, learn all the scales in A, and then move onto A#? Or would it be better to learn all the positions of lets say the Ionian mode in every key (A, A#, B, C etc..) and then move onto the next scale (Dorian)?
I hope i explained myself well, if theres any uncertainties to the question just let me know!


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post Jul 22 2008, 04:15 PM
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Once you learn them in A you already know them in A# you move the pattern up one half step or semitone.
Read Andrews lessons and ask questions if you dont understand somethig about them. They are a great learning tool and are in a very logical progression.

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post Jul 22 2008, 06:26 PM
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Marty Friedman said in an instructional video he made, that there is no such thing as an important scale, the only scales you really need to learn are the ones you need to create you'r music.

Sure, learning various exotic scales can be instresting, but the point is you shouldn't pressure yourself to learn them unless you feel you need them for you'r music, and to be honest, having a goal of learning a whole bunch of scales is too big of a goal to be achieveable.

Start slow, learn one scale, try to create some music with it, and if while soloing you will feel something is missing, a note in you'r mind that isn't in that scale, find that note you want and look up what scale it makes up, and learn that scale next!

That's the most efficient way to learn scales in my opinion, otherwise you will probably learn a scale that you don't really know what to do with, and not only will the learning process frustrate you, but after a while you'll probably just foget it.


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post Jul 22 2008, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (RandomVictim @ Jul 22 2008, 05:12 PM) *
Hello Gmc!

Recently i have set a goal to learn important scales in and out (modes, harmonic minor, pentatonics). This means i want to learn them in every key and where the notes are across the entire fretboard. I just had one quick question... Would it be better to start with the key of A, learn all the scales in A, and then move onto A#? Or would it be better to learn all the positions of lets say the Ionian mode in every key (A, A#, B, C etc..) and then move onto the next scale (Dorian)?
I hope i explained myself well, if theres any uncertainties to the question just let me know!


Learn the major scale and its triad chords.

Don't worry about the keys, the patterns are always the same, you just move em up and down depending on which key it's in.

And by the way, if you learn the full major scale, you will without even trying, also know all the modes.
I will explain this further when you're ready tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:08 PM
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I highly recommend what Iluha said. Check out my post on the practice regime. smile.gif


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post Jul 22 2008, 11:13 PM
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@RandomVictim:
You are lucky!
Because there are only seven shapes you need to learn. biggrin.gif
Not counting the Pentatonic - that's five more.

If you want to learn a scale you'd use, I recommend that you start learning the Major Scale in all 7 positions.

If you learn to play it in one key, you know how to play in all keys.
The key is (pun intended!) to know where the root is.
Just shift up the shapes up and down, and there you go: all the keys of life. wink.gif


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