3 Pages V  < 1 2 3 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Ok, I Need Serious Help, with my new guitar
JeroenKole
post Aug 5 2008, 04:22 PM
Post #21


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 245
Joined: 27-July 08
From: Goirle, The Netherlands
Member No.: 5.587



A floyd rose can be a true pain in the neck, especially when tuning for the first time.

Probably your guitar will have fine tuners on the bridge itself. Use those for what the name implies.

use your regular tuners to get it about right.

Always, always always use a small wooden board when tuning your guitar or when restringing it. Shove it under the floyd rose to make sure the bridge doesn't go up.

What I usually do when tuning my Ibanez is loosen the bolt of the locking nut for the high E and B string, tune the E string and close the bolt again, not to tightly because closed is closed. then move on to the G string, same procedure. A string. and then we do the string that haven't been done yet. B string, D string and low E string. This way your bridge will probably stay in place pretty much and your strings if they have stretched a little (should be the part of the tuning process) should stay in tune.

Hope this helps. smile.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 04:31 PM
Post #22


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (JeroenKole @ Aug 5 2008, 04:22 PM) *
A floyd rose can be a true pain in the neck, especially when tuning for the first time.

Probably your guitar will have fine tuners on the bridge itself. Use those for what the name implies.

use your regular tuners to get it about right.

Always, always always use a small wooden board when tuning your guitar or when restringing it. Shove it under the floyd rose to make sure the bridge doesn't go up.

What I usually do when tuning my Ibanez is loosen the bolt of the locking nut for the high E and B string, tune the E string and close the bolt again, not to tightly because closed is closed. then move on to the G string, same procedure. A string. and then we do the string that haven't been done yet. B string, D string and low E string. This way your bridge will probably stay in place pretty much and your strings if they have stretched a little (should be the part of the tuning process) should stay in tune.

Hope this helps. smile.gif

I'm now stretching the strings like a mad man wink.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
post Aug 5 2008, 05:03 PM
Post #23


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
Member No.: 2.159



QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 05:31 PM) *
I'm now stretching the strings like a mad man wink.gif


It's very hard to tune it even if bridge is tuned fine,
you have to tighten strings all the time,
one is going up and another is going down,tune wise.
But once you get it done,and I'm sure you will smile.gif
then just be careful when changing strings,
be sure to use same gauge and even same brand.
One string at the time as said. smile.gif

Once again,if you have major issues with it
then I would listen to advice above,
take it to some music shop and let them do the job,
watch what they are doing and try to memorize all
steps in process. smile.gif


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 05:06 PM
Post #24


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 5 2008, 05:03 PM) *
It's very hard to tune it even if bridge is tuned fine,
you have to tighten strings all the time,
one is going up and another is going down,tune wise.
But once you get it done,and I'm sure you will smile.gif
then just be careful when changing strings,
be sure to use same gauge and even same brand.
One string at the time as said. smile.gif

Once again,if you have major issues with it
then I would listen to advice above,
take it to some music shop and let them do the job,
watch what they are doing and try to memorize all
steps in process. smile.gif

Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ZakkWylde
post Aug 5 2008, 05:09 PM
Post #25


Learning Tone Master
Group Icon

Group: MVC
Posts: 3.185
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Germany
Member No.: 2.164



That's how the guitar was set up, a guitar tech can fix that and center both strings...


--------------------


Gear:
- Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85
- Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85
- Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton

- Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab
- Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp
- Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
post Aug 5 2008, 05:09 PM
Post #26


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
Member No.: 2.159



QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif


Not sure if got that right,could you post a picture? smile.gif


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 05:15 PM
Post #27


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



Yeah, I think I just better take it to a professional, I really don't want to do something that I shouldn't smile.gif I'll put it away and call to the music store tomorrow.... shame to, I really wanted to start shredding with it smile.gif But better safe than sorry I guess smile.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
post Aug 5 2008, 05:18 PM
Post #28


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
Member No.: 2.159



QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:15 PM) *
Yeah, I think I just better take it to a professional, I really don't want to do something that I shouldn't smile.gif I'll put it away and call to the music store tomorrow.... shame to, I really wanted to start shredding with it smile.gif But better safe than sorry I guess smile.gif


Smart move,I'm sure it'll be fine after tech guy take a look at it,no worries. smile.gif


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gus
post Aug 5 2008, 06:46 PM
Post #29


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: Student Instructor
Posts: 999
Joined: 21-January 08
From: Brazil/Denmark
Member No.: 3.920



QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif


If I got it right I think that your action is set too much diagonally. At least on my Ibanez one can set indepedently the lower and upper part of the bridge, leading to several possible diagonal arrangements.

But anyway, I would follow Muris advice and take to a guitar tech. If he is a friendly one he will also help you learning how you can do some adjustements yourself later.


--------------------
my "Thank you GMC!" video

If you like it please vote in the competition ;-)

Gus Stairway to Guitar Heaven - my practice agenda

Check out my lesson here Phrygian Dominant Solo lesson


Gear : Ibanez RGT320q (I just love the neck-thru sustain), Washburn EA-20SDL (acoustic 6 string), Standard strat (Mexico), POD X3 Live

Some of my Guitar heroes: Jimmy Page, Slash, Kirk Hammett, Augusto Licks, Joe Satriani, Gus G, David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 06:49 PM
Post #30


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (Gus @ Aug 5 2008, 06:46 PM) *
If I got it right I think that your action is set too much diagonally. At least on my Ibanez one can set indepedently the lower and upper part of the bridge, leading to several possible diagonal arrangements.

But anyway, I would follow Muris advice and take to a guitar tech. If he is a friendly one he will also help you learning how you can do some adjustements yourself later.

I'm so pissed off right now, I really want to play with my new guitar, this just sucks mad.gif Just my luck that everything goes to hell... sad.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ZakkWylde
post Aug 5 2008, 06:52 PM
Post #31


Learning Tone Master
Group Icon

Group: MVC
Posts: 3.185
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Germany
Member No.: 2.164



Smartest move would have been letting it get set up nad stuff right when you bought it but I'm sure they'll still do it for free as it's only two or three days old (at least my musicstore would do that...)


--------------------


Gear:
- Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85
- Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85
- Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton

- Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab
- Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp
- Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 06:55 PM
Post #32


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Aug 5 2008, 06:52 PM) *
Smartest move would have been letting it get set up nad stuff right when you bought it but I'm sure they'll still do it for free as it's only two or three days old (at least my musicstore would do that...)

Yeah, I hope so... I just didn't know then when I bought it, that it was going to be this hard sad.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ZakkWylde
post Aug 5 2008, 06:58 PM
Post #33


Learning Tone Master
Group Icon

Group: MVC
Posts: 3.185
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Germany
Member No.: 2.164



Maybe they can explain you right on the spot how to tune the tremolo and then you can do it in the future. Sure floyds are a pain in the (lower back^^) when you have to deal with setting them up but the benfit is that it'll stay in tune no matter what meesed up divebomb moves your going to perform!


--------------------


Gear:
- Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85
- Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85
- Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton

- Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab
- Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp
- Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 5 2008, 07:00 PM
Post #34


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Aug 5 2008, 06:58 PM) *
Maybe they can explain you right on the spot how to tune the tremolo and then you can do it in the future. Sure floyds are a pain in the (lower back^^) when you have to deal with setting them up but the benfit is that it'll stay in tune no matter what meesed up divebomb moves your going to perform!

Yeah, I'll call the store tomorrow and throw some questions at them smile.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MickeM
post Aug 5 2008, 07:43 PM
Post #35


Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader
*

Group: Members
Posts: 8.562
Joined: 9-January 07
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Member No.: 1.062



It's not too late to return it and get a PRS Mira for the same money. Stop tail bridge means NO further trouble.
Between a PRS and an Ibanez I'd get the PRS 10 times out of 10, hands down. But that's me.

And if Gibson still made their doublecuts it would stand between that and a doublecut PRS.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 6 2008, 08:35 AM
Post #36


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 5 2008, 07:43 PM) *
It's not too late to return it and get a PRS Mira for the same money. Stop tail bridge means NO further trouble.
Between a PRS and an Ibanez I'd get the PRS 10 times out of 10, hands down. But that's me.

And if Gibson still made their doublecuts it would stand between that and a doublecut PRS.

I'm not quite sure if they Have PRS guitars....


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kyldeee
post Aug 6 2008, 03:07 PM
Post #37


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.602
Joined: 15-July 07
From: Naantali, Finland
Member No.: 2.321



Oh Yeah, Everything is fine now smile.gif
I took the guitar to the store this morning,
and they fixed it, it was just minor error,
the neck was a little wrong, that's why the
strings weren't centered to the fretboard....

He also showed me how to tune it, so
next time I should be able to do it myself biggrin.gif

And all for free of course smile.gif

Now I'm learning Always with you, Always with me by Satriani,
and I'm having a blast biggrin.gif

Cheers smile.gif


--------------------

Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way.
- Stevie Ray Vaughan

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
post Aug 6 2008, 03:38 PM
Post #38


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
Member No.: 2.159



QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 6 2008, 04:07 PM) *
Oh Yeah, Everything is fine now smile.gif
I took the guitar to the store this morning,
and they fixed it, it was just minor error,
the neck was a little wrong, that's why the
strings weren't centered to the fretboard....

He also showed me how to tune it, so
next time I should be able to do it myself biggrin.gif

And all for free of course smile.gif

Now I'm learning Always with you, Always with me by Satriani,
and I'm having a blast biggrin.gif

Cheers smile.gif


Great to hear, have fun with your new guitar! smile.gif


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Caelumamittendum
post Aug 6 2008, 03:42 PM
Post #39


Learning Rock Star
*

Group: Members
Posts: 4.463
Joined: 14-June 08
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Member No.: 5.298



Good to hear, man!

Will you be able to get it fixed or repaired for free every time?

I remember being able to that when I bought my schecter. A life time of repairing. Too bad I don't like the guy who owns the shop too much :/


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kaznie_NL
post Aug 6 2008, 05:42 PM
Post #40


Experienced Tone Seeker
*

Group: Passive
Posts: 4.809
Joined: 8-December 07
From: Hedel, Netherlands
Member No.: 3.471



Good to hear that Kyldee, I followed this thread. good luck with your JS!


--------------------
My YouTube Channel Here

My Rec Takes Here


--- GEAR ---
Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR
Vox AD50VT
Pod Farm
Line 6 Pod Studio GX
El Cheapo Strat
Dunlop Slide
Korg Toneworks AX5G
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

3 Pages V  < 1 2 3 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 28th May 2017 - 11:13 PM