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JeroenKole
Aug 5 2008, 04:22 PM
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A floyd rose can be a true pain in the neck, especially when tuning for the first time.

Probably your guitar will have fine tuners on the bridge itself. Use those for what the name implies.

use your regular tuners to get it about right.

Always, always always use a small wooden board when tuning your guitar or when restringing it. Shove it under the floyd rose to make sure the bridge doesn't go up.

What I usually do when tuning my Ibanez is loosen the bolt of the locking nut for the high E and B string, tune the E string and close the bolt again, not to tightly because closed is closed. then move on to the G string, same procedure. A string. and then we do the string that haven't been done yet. B string, D string and low E string. This way your bridge will probably stay in place pretty much and your strings if they have stretched a little (should be the part of the tuning process) should stay in tune.

Hope this helps. smile.gif

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Aug 5 2008, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (JeroenKole @ Aug 5 2008, 04:22 PM) *
A floyd rose can be a true pain in the neck, especially when tuning for the first time.

Probably your guitar will have fine tuners on the bridge itself. Use those for what the name implies.

use your regular tuners to get it about right.

Always, always always use a small wooden board when tuning your guitar or when restringing it. Shove it under the floyd rose to make sure the bridge doesn't go up.

What I usually do when tuning my Ibanez is loosen the bolt of the locking nut for the high E and B string, tune the E string and close the bolt again, not to tightly because closed is closed. then move on to the G string, same procedure. A string. and then we do the string that haven't been done yet. B string, D string and low E string. This way your bridge will probably stay in place pretty much and your strings if they have stretched a little (should be the part of the tuning process) should stay in tune.

Hope this helps. smile.gif

I'm now stretching the strings like a mad man wink.gif

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 05:31 PM) *
I'm now stretching the strings like a mad man wink.gif


It's very hard to tune it even if bridge is tuned fine,
you have to tighten strings all the time,
one is going up and another is going down,tune wise.
But once you get it done,and I'm sure you will smile.gif
then just be careful when changing strings,
be sure to use same gauge and even same brand.
One string at the time as said. smile.gif

Once again,if you have major issues with it
then I would listen to advice above,
take it to some music shop and let them do the job,
watch what they are doing and try to memorize all
steps in process. smile.gif

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kyldeee
Aug 5 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 5 2008, 05:03 PM) *
It's very hard to tune it even if bridge is tuned fine,
you have to tighten strings all the time,
one is going up and another is going down,tune wise.
But once you get it done,and I'm sure you will smile.gif
then just be careful when changing strings,
be sure to use same gauge and even same brand.
One string at the time as said. smile.gif

Once again,if you have major issues with it
then I would listen to advice above,
take it to some music shop and let them do the job,
watch what they are doing and try to memorize all
steps in process. smile.gif

Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif

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ZakkWylde
Aug 5 2008, 05:09 PM
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That's how the guitar was set up, a guitar tech can fix that and center both strings...

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif


Not sure if got that right,could you post a picture? smile.gif

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kyldeee
Aug 5 2008, 05:15 PM
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Yeah, I think I just better take it to a professional, I really don't want to do something that I shouldn't smile.gif I'll put it away and call to the music store tomorrow.... shame to, I really wanted to start shredding with it smile.gif But better safe than sorry I guess smile.gif

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Muris Varajic
Aug 5 2008, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:15 PM) *
Yeah, I think I just better take it to a professional, I really don't want to do something that I shouldn't smile.gif I'll put it away and call to the music store tomorrow.... shame to, I really wanted to start shredding with it smile.gif But better safe than sorry I guess smile.gif


Smart move,I'm sure it'll be fine after tech guy take a look at it,no worries. smile.gif

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QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 5 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Okay, thanks... I have a question tho, again biggrin.gif Why is it that the lower E string is kind high on the fret and the high E strings more in the middle of the fret board, It's like the the Lower E almost comes out, that the are not centered.... Did that make any sense biggrin.gif


If I got it right I think that your action is set too much diagonally. At least on my Ibanez one can set indepedently the lower and upper part of the bridge, leading to several possible diagonal arrangements.

But anyway, I would follow Muris advice and take to a guitar tech. If he is a friendly one he will also help you learning how you can do some adjustements yourself later.

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QUOTE (Gus @ Aug 5 2008, 06:46 PM) *
If I got it right I think that your action is set too much diagonally. At least on my Ibanez one can set indepedently the lower and upper part of the bridge, leading to several possible diagonal arrangements.

But anyway, I would follow Muris advice and take to a guitar tech. If he is a friendly one he will also help you learning how you can do some adjustements yourself later.

I'm so pissed off right now, I really want to play with my new guitar, this just sucks mad.gif Just my luck that everything goes to hell... sad.gif

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Aug 5 2008, 06:52 PM
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Smartest move would have been letting it get set up nad stuff right when you bought it but I'm sure they'll still do it for free as it's only two or three days old (at least my musicstore would do that...)

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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Aug 5 2008, 06:52 PM) *
Smartest move would have been letting it get set up nad stuff right when you bought it but I'm sure they'll still do it for free as it's only two or three days old (at least my musicstore would do that...)

Yeah, I hope so... I just didn't know then when I bought it, that it was going to be this hard sad.gif

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Maybe they can explain you right on the spot how to tune the tremolo and then you can do it in the future. Sure floyds are a pain in the (lower back^^) when you have to deal with setting them up but the benfit is that it'll stay in tune no matter what meesed up divebomb moves your going to perform!

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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Aug 5 2008, 06:58 PM) *
Maybe they can explain you right on the spot how to tune the tremolo and then you can do it in the future. Sure floyds are a pain in the (lower back^^) when you have to deal with setting them up but the benfit is that it'll stay in tune no matter what meesed up divebomb moves your going to perform!

Yeah, I'll call the store tomorrow and throw some questions at them smile.gif

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It's not too late to return it and get a PRS Mira for the same money. Stop tail bridge means NO further trouble.
Between a PRS and an Ibanez I'd get the PRS 10 times out of 10, hands down. But that's me.

And if Gibson still made their doublecuts it would stand between that and a doublecut PRS.

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QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 5 2008, 07:43 PM) *
It's not too late to return it and get a PRS Mira for the same money. Stop tail bridge means NO further trouble.
Between a PRS and an Ibanez I'd get the PRS 10 times out of 10, hands down. But that's me.

And if Gibson still made their doublecuts it would stand between that and a doublecut PRS.

I'm not quite sure if they Have PRS guitars....

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Oh Yeah, Everything is fine now smile.gif
I took the guitar to the store this morning,
and they fixed it, it was just minor error,
the neck was a little wrong, that's why the
strings weren't centered to the fretboard....

He also showed me how to tune it, so
next time I should be able to do it myself biggrin.gif

And all for free of course smile.gif

Now I'm learning Always with you, Always with me by Satriani,
and I'm having a blast biggrin.gif

Cheers smile.gif

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QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 6 2008, 04:07 PM) *
Oh Yeah, Everything is fine now smile.gif
I took the guitar to the store this morning,
and they fixed it, it was just minor error,
the neck was a little wrong, that's why the
strings weren't centered to the fretboard....

He also showed me how to tune it, so
next time I should be able to do it myself biggrin.gif

And all for free of course smile.gif

Now I'm learning Always with you, Always with me by Satriani,
and I'm having a blast biggrin.gif

Cheers smile.gif


Great to hear, have fun with your new guitar! smile.gif

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Good to hear, man!

Will you be able to get it fixed or repaired for free every time?

I remember being able to that when I bought my schecter. A life time of repairing. Too bad I don't like the guy who owns the shop too much :/

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Good to hear that Kyldee, I followed this thread. good luck with your JS!

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